to think that mumsnet should be a website for all mums regardless

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of literacy and the way they speak/type and should be welcoming to everyone? I cant fucking stand this perceived superiority over certain posters that use text speak, use of hun, lol, x's etc or the suggestion that they are somehow unsuitable for this forum and should bugger off to the other one.

As as for the fucking grammer police, fuck the fuck off. Just because someone maybe didn't use capitals, or misspelt a word, or hasn't posted perfect english, doesn't open their post to ridicule.

I have a particular loathing for 'gawjuss.

Why? Just, why? It is not short hand, it is not cute, it is just an ugly way of saying gorgeous, which is a lovely word and should be used properly.

Did op come back and link lots of recent examples of mumsnetters being mean about grammar and spelling? Have been cooking and eating.

There's a place near Bolton called Nob End. Maybe it should be twinned with Belend in Turkey.

There is a town near Valencia called Arse. Dh and I made a special trip there to get the photo.

I would so love to send someone a postcard from Arse.

No problem with poor grammer or spelling.

But text speak? Na You are just a lazy ignorant fuckwit.

The language of this forum is English and making an effort is at least appreciated even if you don't get it perfect. Why should anyone make an effort to reply if you can't be bothered in the first place?

I work near a town called "Wankdorf", can I be twinned too?

If you don't like text speak, you don't have to take any notice of the posting, do you?

I was discussing MN with someone at work and someone was saying they would never post on here as it was renowned for being packed with alpha mummies who like nothing better than to tear other women to shreds who they perceive as less competent than them.

I thought she was being harsh, however after seeing that thread earlier today I know what she was talking about. Therefore OP you are not being unreasonable. I hate text speak , but I would not ridicule someone for using it. How awful to think that only those with the correct class and educational credentials should receive advice.

There is no excuse for text speak. none. Quite apart from anything else, I have no idea why anyone would want to write like that.

As for spelling, I remember quite vividly commenting on a thread once which was about a very sensitive and emotive topic, in which the op required real support (unplanned pregnancy, she was under pressure from her partner to terminate, etc), and a poster coming on straight after my post and pointing out the one spelling mistake I had made. it was neither the time or the place to do so and I started a thread about it so as not to highjack the one in question.

Not everyone can spell perfectly. Not everyone uses appropriate grammar, in fact not everyone has English as their first language.

I have a friend who is dislexic and who believes he is stupid because of all the times he was told so as a child. He most certainly is not, and to hear him put himself down like that makes me very and it's all because of the likes of people like the ones who come on to threads and scathingly point out peoples' mistakes.

My spelling is not perfect. I am not dislexic, however I use a screenreader which means I never see words written - my computer speaks them to me (I type normally on a laptop keyboard at a rate of 95 words a minute) I grew up reading braille which is contracted down into shorthand, so from the age of 7 I haven't seen a word written down in full. It's not an excuse or a justification but sometimes it does go some way to explaining why I sometimes spell literally rather than correctly. I could write posts out in word but to be frank we're only talking about posts on a website here, it's not that important that my every word needs spell-checking just in case I spelled one wrong.

People need to get over themselves. Not being able to spell is far less offputting than being an arogant twat who points it out.

I love your christmas name Binfull

oh yes Binfull that is genius!

I don't mind typos or genuine occasional misspellings. I also don't mind if someone doesn't have perfect grammar. But a post that is all in this ridiculous text talk, absolutely no grammar and all one big chunk rather than paragraphed is just too much.

I don't know how to read text talk for a start. I just look at it and sort of go EH?! and i'm not old by any stretch of the imagination. What I like about mumsnet, one big thing that separates it from the others is the fact people don't sign off with an x (every single post, I mean is it really necessary?) and don't refer to their children or other people's as lil man/lady or whatever. I also like that most people can actually spell simple words like what and don't abbreviate everything into text slang.

I can't remember what it was about either, I do know that I cracked up laughing when I read that particular message though. It was probably a benefit bashing thread, I always seem to be on those with you

I used to have a friend who wrote in the most ridiculous text speak, I'm pretty certain the point of text speak is to be able to fit more into a message with limited characters, and yet she'd manage to lengthen words! It used to drive me mad trying to read her messages.

wannaBe that is fascinating about Braille - I didn't know how it worked. How have you learned to spell correctly, if you haven't read visually for so long, if you don't mind my asking? For me, it's an entirely visual skill and a word either looks right or it doesn't (I was a flashcards child of the 70s). I would be very interested to know more if you have time.

There's nothing wrong with judging someone based on how they choose to present themselves to you. So spelling mistakes are fine, some people (like me) are poor spellers however hard they try. But if someone chooses to use txt spk because they think its cool, then judging them for that seems perfectly reasonable.

notnow well basically how it works is that letters or combinations spell out specific words or parts of words. so e.g. the braille letter B is short for But, c for Can, d for do and so on. and then there are entirely unrelated braille combinations which spell out letters i.e. there is a combination (braille dot 6 (braille is made up of six dots) and then the letter n) spells out the combination "ation" or braille dots 4-6 and then the letter n spell "sion" but dots 5-6 and n spell "tion" so it's remembering those combinations (which to be fair I usually do) that can be the key.

There is now a bigger issue though in that today's visually impaired children are less likely to learn braille and more likely to just learn to hear words spoken to them by a screenreader.

Poor spelling is completely different from txt speak IMO because poor spelling is unintentional. You have to choose to write in txt speak however, its no ones first language.

Im dislexic I use my my phone as dp is on the laptop. My phone wont let due paragrahs. I forget to use full stops so will say sorry now. I lurk mostly due to my spellings etc was going to start a thread for gentel handing holding tonight but I will leave it. As dont want to be judged for spelling grammer

i didn't particularly have any trouble reading the op on the other thread. the pisstaking was a bit off though.

Many people do MN on their phones, so textspeak is not a totally unreasonable choice.

Sorry but I am 48 and I cant text. I dont understand text speak. I cant read your post if it is in text speak.

"Many people do MN on their phones, so textspeak is not a totally unreasonable choice." I disagree. all phones have the full alphabet and punctuation, many phones now even have a querty keyboard. The only reason why people write in text speak is pure lazyness.

I write all my texts, tweets, mn posts etc in full including punctuation - why on earth would anyone want to come across as so thick and lazy.

I speak as someone who has never used textspeak ever in my life, even to text. But MNing on your phone is a pain, my phone posts are littered with errors.

Using textspeak just means you have made a different choice.

My sisters all use textspeak as do my older children, they are not thick or lazy.

MurderOfGoths- What has my username got to do with it?

I could easily have chosen a more original one, if I had wanted to?

Your username, btw, sounds childish and pathetic.