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to think that mumsnet should be a website for all mums regardless

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tittytittyhanghang · 25/11/2012 17:18

of literacy and the way they speak/type and should be welcoming to everyone? I cant fucking stand this perceived superiority over certain posters that use text speak, use of hun, lol, x's etc or the suggestion that they are somehow unsuitable for this forum and should bugger off to the other one.

As as for the fucking grammer police, fuck the fuck off. Just because someone maybe didn't use capitals, or misspelt a word, or hasn't posted perfect english, doesn't open their post to ridicule.

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scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 22:17

in work i have to be precise and exacting all week
mn is recreational blah, and no isnt significant enough for me to spellcheck.i dont
it make me laugh when people try post the mn rules,the style yhey prefer as if its a universally accepted guideline.it isnt

amillionyears · 25/11/2012 22:19

I thought that was why you did it.
It is your way of letting your hair down so to speak.

MurderOfGoths · 25/11/2012 22:21

"Those are not ridiculous generalisations. Many people on Netmums are perfectly open about how much they are claiming in benefits."

Ah yes, and they've all told you it's a "lifestyle choice" it is have they? Also funny how they are apparently illiterate and yet you are totally able to understand them enough to know so much about their "lifestyle choices"

usual Or maybe it's
2 hours since I last forgot to engage brain before posting

scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 22:23

well yes essentially as mn to me is recreational blether,a wee foray across threads
and i want to pile in, say my bit read everyone else bit,and enjoy mn

usualsuspect3 · 25/11/2012 22:26

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scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 22:30

yep.some people try to impose a gravitas or their preference on mn
and when the do gavel as if it is final and they have spoken,that cracks me up
its a web forum,not that significant,not worth getting in a spin about so called etiquette

CoteDAzur · 25/11/2012 22:40

YABU.

scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 22:47

the spelling pedants and we do it like this on mn are just controlling
its a hark back to the we done that already,search the archives put-downs of yore
but fortunately no one listens to or acts upon the spelling pedants advice.or the gavel

MorrisZapp · 25/11/2012 22:49

The gavel is a joke.

scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 22:51

its also passive aggressive, as in shut up one has spoken

SomethingOnce · 25/11/2012 23:05

No, it isn't. Really, it isn't [gavel]

scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 23:08

well you would say that wouldnt you,naturally i dont agree

MorrisZapp · 25/11/2012 23:12

It isn't passive aggressive at all. It's just a joke, usually used after knowingly getting het up about something superficial or trivial.

scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 23:16

imo it can also be passive aggrsive, ive seen it used in attempt to stifle or divert

SomethingOnce · 25/11/2012 23:31

Shut up, one has spoken.

scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 23:34

indeed,but one hasnt listened

SomethingOnce · 25/11/2012 23:34

Everybody takes the gavel seriously and acts on it [gavel]

scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 23:34

gavel just makes me laugh.i imagine a wizened auld wummin

SomethingOnce · 25/11/2012 23:39

DP just shouted 'Not far wrong there' and [gavel]led. The fucker.

VestaCurry · 25/11/2012 23:40

There doesn't seem to be much allowance for eg dyslexia on here, which I find shocking. I don't remember the grammar and spelling police swooping in the earlier Mumsnet years, but the site had become huge. Still, if I were dyslexic I would not always feel welcome on here Sad.

scottishmummy · 25/11/2012 23:48

its a shame people full unwelcome on basis of spelling pedants
as i see it post,expect comment,riposte on your threads
nit picking about syntax,its rude

FellatioNelson · 26/11/2012 06:25

Actually I don't think they are made to feel unwelcome purely because of spelling and grammar sloppiness, although it does rankle. I think it's more about what they say, rather than how clumsily they say it. As someone said on another thread yesterday, there is a culture of wanting to preserve the character of the site, and that causes some people to guard it jealously and put up barriers to keep certain people out.

I also think that some people come onto MN and it changes them; they discover a whole new elite world that they want to be part of. They become more aspirational, more aware of what and what is not considered socially acceptable among the middle classes and the educated, they become more discerning about things like food, or education, they may make an effort to modify their speech etc, as the MN effect starts to rub off on them. And they sometimes need to show they 'get it' at every turn; prove they are 'one of us' which why we get so many hackneyed, cliched posts about 'Oh, haha, my DS is so middle class - he asked me for olives in the middle of Waitrose the other day! How embarrassing!' said with utter glee. I think they can be the ones who are hardest on the poor unsuspecting pariahs who stumble onto here - they want to earn their MN Intelligensia stripes, and they think that's the way to do it.

I think there is a subconscious need to dissuade people from sticking around if we collectively sense that the fit is not right. Like when Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman goes into the posh boutique and the ladies look her up and down and say 'I'm sorry dear, we don't have anything suitable for you in here.' Grin

Let's face it, while it's pretty unpleasant to witness it at times if it didn't happen and we were equally welcoming to all, we'd soon be just like netmums and 80% of us would no longer want to be here. The conversation would bore us and appall us in equal measure. Netmums has its place; it serves its demographic well, but we are not (by and large) its core/target demographic and I doubt they want us lot on there either, quite honestly. Well, the owners of the site might, as we probably have more disposable income (on average) which is good for bringing in advertising revenue, but I doubt we'd be very welcome on the boards, with our po-faced standards and our use of big words, and what with us thinking we are better than the little people. And we do - let's face it otherwise we'd be over there. No point denying it.

It's like when people go for years to a particular favourite holiday spot and then getting all huffy and indignant when it is discovered by the masses in football shirts who lower the tone. We are the site that has a sign outside saying 'No baseball caps allowed'. But we all know it's not because of the baseball caps themselves - it's because of the stereotypical behaviour of the people who wear them. We all secretly know that if David Milliband walked into MN in a baseball cap, we'd turn a blind eye, because we'd trust him not to put a chair over our head if we looked at his bird. Wink

There are sound reasons for not allowing text speak on MN, but you've got to admit it's also handy for weeding out the undesirables, whilst conveniently taking the moral high ground about dyslexia and people who are forrin. Wink

I am not condoning any of the above BTW, I just think there is an unavoidable element of human nature about it. I do not approve when it gets too obvious and too nasty though. Especially if the poster sounds vulnerable and unhappy. But apart from a handful of people who have a bully mentality I honestly think that rarely happens.

scottishmummy · 26/11/2012 06:41

interesting post, Imo there's not mn us.I've never thought of mn as critical mass
As with everything people may/not have affinities and try align selves
hence self proclaimed cliques,quiches and the lufflys voting for fave mn

Oblomov · 26/11/2012 06:55

I hate text speak. So no, that's not o.k.
Hate grammar pickers, but they now have their own pendants corner, so thats' o.k.
I am the worlds worst typist. And have to spellcheck all my posts , prior to posting and often miss 'tha't, which I always type as 'thta' and always have to correct, often missing. Drives me mad.
Hopefully others reading my posts are more forgiving.I had to make 4 corrections to get that post right!!

scaevola · 26/11/2012 07:17

I think OP has missed the point spectacularly.

MN is open to anyone who has Internet access.

But MN has it's norms, and no text-speak is one of them.

You wouldn't send your DD to Cubs in a Brownie uniform and then complain when she was asked to wear the right uniform. MN does have a poistion against text-speak (it was linked way earlier on the thread).

Posters who wish to use text-speak should find a place where doing so does not breach the site guidelines, and which has a community which is happy for that form of language. MN is not that place.