to want to bop every person who drives without their lights on when it is raining or glum and grey over the head

[psychomum5]

oooh it riles me.

if you go out and you have to use your wipers, you should put on your lights, by law. It is in the hand book.

If it is grey and gloomy, you should put your lights on. It is not law, but it is common sense.

If you drive a black car, you even less see-able. For Gods sake, put your light on.

And if you see me flashing at you, if is not to make my car like a flashing pretty christmas tree, it is because you are driving dangerously and barely see-able. I can see you JUST because a car behind you has lights on and shows you up. PUT YOUR LIGHTS ON.

And Please don;t crash into me and then tell me you can;t see ME. I had my lights on and was less than 3mtrs away from you. I WAS SEE-ABLE.

I knew this was going to be you pyscho .

I agree. The number of times I yell (to myself really) at drivers early in the morning with no lights on - or like yesterday when it was nasty and grey and drizzly in the afternoon.....

sorry to hear that psycho.

Also, sidelights really don't count.

I also have a car where they're on permanently. We got halogens sort of by accident as it's second-hand - it costs £90 to replace one bulb and you can't do it yourself, has to be a garage. Reallyl really really bloody annoying

I don't see the point in sidelights, I don't think I have ever used them I just go straight for headlights.

It's in the Highway code OP? Are you sure? Why would you but your lights on when it is midsummer but there is a downpour?

Because a downpour reduces visibility, therefore lights make you more visible. Surely not that hard for any driver to understand that?

Yes, esp. on motorway with lots of spray.

And lights on on-coming cars make it much easier to judge distance for safe overtaking on a few roads round here.

abitcold you mean HID headlights, normal bulbs are halogen (or xenon sometimes).

I can understand on a motorway but not doing 30mph. Any need for the sarcasm sirzy? It was only a question

how did you know alittlebitshy...am I that obvious in my rants

oh see, I know exactly what I'm talking about

It was in the highway code when I learnt to drive.

if you have to use your wipers, you have to put on lights.

even in the summer

I have never driven in bright sunshine AND a complete downpour, and I have been driving over 22yrs now

The highway code says to use lights when visibility is seriously reduced to less than 100 meters - I just googled.

It was a daft question, a downpour reduces visibility on any road. Why would you not put your lights on?

You've never driven in a summer down pour? Do you live in the UK?

If you say so sirzy

I just googled and interestingly if people put HID lights into headlight casings only designed for halogen, there is 'glare', hence a few boy-racer cars round here being v. bright.

Can you tell I'm waiting for work to arrive ...

I have never driven in a summer downpour where visibility isn't reduced

sirzy, my school run this morning was slooooooooooooooooooooooooow. I still needed to see the other cars

is it not in the highway code anymore???

I should know this.....DD1 is now taking lessons. But as I attract trouble (darling DHs words ) I am not allowed to help her

valium....yup....driven in many.....did I say I am now old [sob].

Not driven in any where the clouds are not there and everything is still bright.

I have driven in light rain and bright sun and pretty rainbows, but heavy rain tends to hide the sun

You are TOTALLY reasonable. We've had fog for 10 days, with visibility as low as 20 meters and some people in their little grey cars don't put on any lights.

Each one I see I want to shout: You are endangering yourselves and other road users!!!!

I passed 5 years ago - never taught the wipers/light rule OP, side lights if you want yes but not front ones. Can't remember any questions in the theory tests either. Things do change, at one time people were taught to indicate if they were just passing a parked car on the side of the road - now that is seen as confusing to the driver behind.

side light are pointless IMO. pathetic and pointless.

and bright shiny blinding lights are wrong too. but they are normally the halogen lights, which I think should be completely banned, as even in grey and gloomy and torrential rain they dazzle me!

I do have eye issues tho....

How should one skin the drivers who, in torrential rain that has flooded the motorway, insist on weaving through the lines at 80mph, without lights on and without indicating. There's several ways to skin a cat, one would like to know what's the most educational one to use on the abovementioned numpties?

v slowly whilst reciting highway code obv.