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I am about to explode with my boss

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FuckingWonderwoman · 14/11/2012 19:58

I am feeling stabby and want to kill him. Several weeks ago, he asked me and a colleague to organise an awayday for our team. He said it should build on the last one. OK, we said, we can do that, but people will want some fun activities as well. He, and another colleague, have emailed us a vast list of "helpful" suggestions as to what we might do on the awayday. We realised there were some politics here, so said yes, how helpful, we will look at these and see what we can come up with.

We came up with several options for the day using the Shit Sandwich approach - a fun, team building warm up exercise, which will take around 45 minutes, then a quick coffee break, and onto the next exercise, which is his serious work one, finishing with a fun, but relevant activity after lunch.

He has vetoed every single fucking suggestion we have come up with, both for the fun activities and the serious bit in the middle. We are now a week away from the awayday, and I cannot tell you how much time we have wasted on this, as he won't consider ideas, but wants concrete plans, set out in writing.

We have come up with what we thought was a good plan, still using the Shit Sandwich approach. I have emailed him to tell him our latest suggestion which is exactly what he said he wanted for the serious bit. I have said that I don't want to divulge details of the two "fun" exercises, as it is important that everyone comes at these "blind" and doesn't have time to think about them.

I've just got an email (yes, sent this evening). He has vetoed our serious activity and has said we don't seem to have thought about Susan's suggestions. We did think about them, but Susan is as mad as a box of frogs and her suggestions were too. He has also vetoed our "fun" parts to the day, unless we can tell him concretely what they involve.

We have one week to go.

AIBU to tell him to shove the whole thing up his arse and he and Susan can come up with something between them.

And then to crack his fucking head open with an axe and leave the building?

AngryAngryAngryAngry

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bringbacksideburns · 16/11/2012 09:13

Why do companies do this? Cringingly awful and expensive time wasters.

The fire burning coals/ 3 degree burns story sounds like David Brent!

On a plus side you could suggest you do the old 'we'll catch you, trust in your team' fall back exercise and swiftly step away. That should shut him up.

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 16/11/2012 09:20

I agree with you mulled but sometimes it does help to put something fun in to keep everyone awake and also to help make it a memorable day, if that's something which is useful, depending on what you're trying to achieve

Astelia · 16/11/2012 09:28

I am looking forward to hearing the update too.

The business sounds really on its uppers if it can't run to a sandwich for everyone. Team building exercise + keeping everyone until 6pm on a Friday + no lunch = waste of time and reduced team spirit. Better not to bother.

NatashaBee · 16/11/2012 12:01

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gimmesunshine · 16/11/2012 12:17

Loving this thread. Just marking my place in case of updates Grin

LineRunner · 16/11/2012 12:23

Oh my current boss man is like this. I just tell him to fuck off. Works a treat.

Fillybuster · 16/11/2012 12:46

How did the meeting go OP?

Some good ideas in there from Flow4.....although probably too late for you now!

MikeOxard · 16/11/2012 14:38

Yanbu, and yab hilarious to use the phrase 'shit sandwich'. I shall be trying to use this approach more in my daily life. :o

BRANdishingMistletoe · 16/11/2012 15:33

I've been to a wedding in Finland that sounds just like that Finnish office away day, everyone off their heads on Vodka and ending up naked in the sauna. Grin

If your contract is up anyway OP then I would collate all the emails and accidentally bcc all the attendees the day before the event. I would also order the fanciest possible lunch from in-house catering. Then I would be too ill to attend but send an email (again with a bcc to all attendees) saying that you have every confidence in Susan to run the day. Mind you, I'm not a team player and when I worked in an office nobody in their right mind would have asked me to organise any sort of team event.

FuckingWonderwoman · 16/11/2012 18:54

We had a great meeting. Grin Susan had forgotten it was happening and wasn't there. Bossman said he wanted to know exactly what we were planning.

So we told him. Except we used as much jargon as possible, so he was none the wiser and didn't like to ask - eg "What does this first exercise involve, Wonderwoman?" "Oh it's a fantastic way of investigating your emotional intelligence and exploring the ways that others perceive how you interact with the world, how your motivations work and I think you'll find it really pushes the envelope. It's terribly interactive and we're mixing everyone up according to their colour types - that's like Myers Briggs but more in depth - you'll need to do the test but I would say you were an orange. Wouldn't you Keith? I'd definitely say he was an orange. We'll need post it notes, white boards, flip charts and tissues. It can get quite emotional as everyone's innermost fears come to the surface, but at the end of it, the objective of seeing yourself through others' eyes will be achieved. I'll hand over to Keith now, for the serious part."

Keith then went on to play a blinder, using such catchy phrases as blue skies thinking, strategy, thinking strategically about the work plan for the year and how it could not just be achieved but surpassed. We would look at different ways in which the pie could be divided, exploring in depth such controversial ways of working as the Chinese five year plan - could this work for us? And Wang's Theorum (he made this up), how we work with our competitors, how we could serve our customers better, to improve their loyalty. He ended by saying that he would then split everyone into four different groups for the final "fun" exercise.

The only question he spluttered out at the end was why the fun exercise involved two teams, and couldn't all be done together. The answer? Because only four people could play Ludo at any one time. He laughed nervously, looked at us, and we kept perfectly straight faces.

I ended by asking about who would be paying for the lunch, and gave him costing for bringing in something from outside (nice food) and the in house catering (yucky sandwiches) and steered him in the direction of the nice food, as the cost difference was negligible. He clearly wanted to escape the room at this point, so agreed to the outside caterers, and that it could be funded from his budget. I wanted to ask if we could have wine too, but thought that might be pushing it.

So we got a win-win result and expanded the pie quite nicely. Grin

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MulledWineOnTheBusLady · 16/11/2012 18:58

Shock You are a legend! I would NEVER have had the balls. Hilarious!

I feel a pressing need to discover and prove Wang's Theorem now.

LineRunner · 16/11/2012 18:58

I still think I would have told him to fuck off.

But bloody well done - result to you! Grin Wang's Theorum dictates you can have a drink now.

FuckingWonderwoman · 16/11/2012 19:07

Keith and I had a long chat first thing this morning about how we were going to play this one. We were really not sure it would work, and if it had backfired, I think he would have got very angry. But we thought, what the heck! Grin

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FuckingWonderwoman · 16/11/2012 19:08

Wang's Theorum - the amount of time it takes me to finish a bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau.

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LineRunner · 16/11/2012 19:09

I got cornered in a workshop once to do Meyers Briggs. I thought we were meant to be repairing a sewer system in a clay-based drift geology.

LineRunner · 16/11/2012 19:13

I don't mean a car repair workshop. That would be insane.

LindyHemming · 16/11/2012 19:20

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garlicbaguette · 16/11/2012 19:24

SUPERB!!! Oh, well done Grin

You and Keith should set up a consultancy.

dikkertjedap · 16/11/2012 19:26

Well done! Good on you.

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 16/11/2012 19:27

Excellent!

Make sure you get some of those fun SHAPED post it notes, really blow the budget

i think you'll find you need to create some kind of model, exploring the correlation between proximity to your contract's end and telling morons to fuck off.

Do you have a touch of red in your profile by any chance?, Grin

ifancyashandy · 16/11/2012 19:32

I want to employ and / or work with you! FREAKIN' GENIUS!!!

Oh, to have been a fly on the wall! I am SO stealing this for future dealings with 'Shit Boss(es)'.

Kudos, Lady, kudos.

HoleyGhost · 16/11/2012 19:49

Well done Grin

redexpat · 16/11/2012 20:18
flow4 · 16/11/2012 20:20

Wang's theory is GENIUS - well done to you and Keith! Grin

I got trained to do Myers-Briggs on people. Hmm It didn't make my managers happy when I said I thought it was basically like horoscopes!

My own away-day highlight was once getting 100 people in 10 teams to build models of how they perceived their organisation out of junk materials!! Grin My personal favourites were the team who built a goal out of pipe-cleaners and made it stand up with chewed-up toffees, and the other team who built a puppet out of paper plates then stood on the tables to show how managers were jerking their strings! Grin

Honestly. I'm not making that up.

bigTillyMint · 16/11/2012 21:37

Fantastic ending - you really are a fucking wonderwomanSmile

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