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to think that the whole js scandal has far wider implications for 'Great Britain'

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britainsruined · 06/11/2012 13:09

People must be questioning how a nation could propel someone so high & ignore so many innocent victims. Victims passed around politicians & royalty, favours done in exchange for silence. So sickening & so sad. Even the home secretary said this morning that she had heard rumours at the time, but as it was the pm nothing was done. Police ignored cries for help because they were involved leading to victims killing themselves. People who wrote this years ago were labelled as crazy but now every 'friend' of js has to ruled out & many of them can't be. Makes me so sad. David Icke was labelled as crazy, yet he was one of the people naming names. Victims were labelled as crazy yet that is exactly why they were chosen because they knew none would believe them. Victims abused live on tv & in front of people that should've helped them Esther. I for one have stopped ignoring conspiracy theories, why on earth was he given a medal & involved in peace talks for Israel or put in charge of broad moor!? A man that started out as a violent doorman.The whole thing is so sickening & so very sad.

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Mrsjay · 06/11/2012 15:32

MY Mil worked with a paedophille who was accused of abusing boys in scout camps and youth groups she herself went to her head of department and complained that he just wasnt right and too familiar with the teens and children she was dismissed and told he had been checked out he is a good worker, he went on to kill children in a primary school 12 months later

Pendeen · 06/11/2012 15:33

"And how on earth did he become such a 'well-loved' and famous TV figure? He had absolutely no talent whatsoever from what I can see apart from wittering on with torturous nonsense non-stop"

Oh do be sensible.

Nearly every "'well-loved' and famous TV figure" has little real talent and is a sham of one type or another.

Your comment demeans the 'debate'.

MrsjREwing · 06/11/2012 15:41

OP can you ask this is moved to "in the news" survivors posted in chat recently as JS was triggering them, they asked to have JS threads away from AIBU and chat.

YANBU!

britainsruined · 06/11/2012 15:42

Okay Edward Heath! He was a keen sailor and used to take boys out on his boat to abuse them. People have spoken out against him before talked about him being gay. He was told to stop 'cottaging' and had boys arranged for him instead. Brian Coleman mp spoke about the cottaging but not the other allegations.

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garlicbaguette · 06/11/2012 16:01

Yes, Heath was well-known for having boys sent to his yacht, Morning Cloud. Everybody made jokes about it. I was one of the fools who thought that, as it was so open, it must only be a joke. For context, it was never actually said that Heath was gay although you'd have to be a bit dim not to realise. As it wasn't OK to say a politician was a homosexual (and most people refused to believe it), you can see how it was easy to deny something like paedophilia.

I'd never read Savile's autobiography. But, blimey, he actually bragged about his abuses! In print!

?A high-ranking lady police officer came in one night and showed me the picture of an attractive girl who had run away from a remand home. 'Ah,? says I, all serious, 'if she comes in I?ll bring her back tomorrow but I?ll keep her all night first as my reward.? ...
?It is God?s truth that the absconder came in [to the club] that night ... and agreed that I hand her over if she could stay at the dance, come home with me, and that I would promise to see her when they let her out.
?At 11.30 the next morning she was willingly presented to an astounded lady of the law. The officeress was dissuaded from bringing charges against me by her colleagues, for it was well known that, were I to go, I would probably take half the station with me.?

"Once, In London, I had a girl delivered to me in a sack. It was far too heavy to lift from the outside step and I got a touch of the horrors in case the body, for it was obvious to the feel, was dead. It wasn?t, but it was also unnecessarily dramatic because it was broad daylight and one doesn?t feel half as guilty during the day."

Just Shock

www.anorak.co.uk/337752/celebrities/extracts-from-jimmy-saviles-autobiography-love-is-an-uphill-thing.html/
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9636035/Jimmy-Savile-a-strange-and-sordid-life-unravels-after-death.html
www.whale.to/b/haut_de_la_garenne_inquiry.html

britainsruined · 06/11/2012 16:40

It's story's like that garlic. He wrote it in his autobiography that came out a few years ago & nothing was done. One of his victims committed suicide leaving a detailed diary. The inquest heard it was all fantasySad

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britainsruined · 06/11/2012 16:41

I will ask for it to be moved jr sorry

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Lottapianos · 06/11/2012 17:47

Pandeen, that is a nasty and high handed response. My comment does not demean anything apart from JS.

Lottapianos · 06/11/2012 17:50

Garlic, those quotes are just sickening aren't they? He obviously ft he was completely untouchable. Absolutely heartbroken for that victim and all the others who felt they had no one to turn to for all these years.

britainsruined · 06/11/2012 18:59

On the news they are talking about a living politician who has denied allegations. Deflects attention away from other more important people that need to be protected.

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FindAprilJones · 06/11/2012 21:08

It has made me think what a genius Stieg Larsson was, if you read the Dragon Tattoo trilogy you can see the truth behind the fiction- the channels of power, corruption and abuse which are coming to light. It grieves me that he is not around to investigate this cesspit and campaign for victims in the UK. JS situation was left because it was more convenient to deal with after his death. I have a gut feeling that daycare/nurseries will be the next big scandal. My children were both in full time nurseries ten years ago so it's not because I disapprove of child care. My daughter now tells me about memories of when she was sent to the office because she kept having accidents & being shouted at for needing a change of clothes.

Thank God it wasn't abuse but the guilt I felt knowing she was unhappy and scared...after the huge boom in day nurseries for profit let's hope British kids don't hate our generation of parents!

Pendeen · 06/11/2012 22:55

Lottapianos - of course it is not. I am in no way being "nasty."

You introduced an irrelevant subject.

Stick to the point, please!

Lottapianos · 07/11/2012 08:20

I am on the point thank you. You don't get to police this thread so please wind your neck in.

britainsruined · 07/11/2012 15:56

Lets not get distracted please.

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