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to send a copy of this disgusting, homophobic, racist, disablist, misogynistic, offensive FB convo to the head of the local school?

78 replies

nearlyNovember · 25/10/2012 01:46

It is horrifying what these 13/14yos are writing.

They have used practically every swear word.

Told each otehr they're slags/retards/faggots/cunts/to get out of my country.

That they're just bombers.

Sad
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Mrsjay · 25/10/2012 12:22

of course children swear and use language I don't think anybody would dispute that I do think if a child is being bullied teased poked fun off etc on facebook then that is different and not curtain twitching.

Mrsjay · 25/10/2012 12:24

It was a girl's dad, Mrsjay! He went off on one. DD showed me and we turned the computer off, and I phoned the Tutor the next morning to seek assistance!

It is shocking how they get involved on 'that' level and intimidating glad you got it sorted I always found the pastoral staff at dds school excellent although with dd1 a set of parents refused to attend the meeting to discuss our daughters behaviour which i found a bit Hmm

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes · 25/10/2012 12:30

I think this sounds a bit beyond a bit of bad language and yes you should inform the school, mainly so they can reveiw the way they teach difference and diversity and tolerance. There should be an anti bullying policy that covers internet usage too. It often amazes me how kids seem to get away with such 'hatred' when if it was an adult in a workplace it would be a disciplinary offence. If its as full of racial hatered as you suggest then I would contact the police. NO ONE even kids should be allowed to get away with this sort of stuff if they are not taught its unacceptable now then when will they? do we leave it and ignore until we have several more Stephen Lawrences?

ClippedPhoenix · 25/10/2012 12:37

Why is it up to the school to teach tolerance? Here we go again. the school should do this do that do the other, Blimey!

Mrsjay · 25/10/2012 13:58

why shouldnt a school teach tolerance it is all about parent partnership these days which is no bad thing ,
schools have our children for the best part of the whole week and why shouldn't schools teach about these things it isn't all about maths and english they are

also supporting young people to be half decent adults along side parents, and if a teenager is being bullied out of school then you can be assured it is happening in school , Not 1 person on this thread said Oh just let the school deal with it cos I can't be arsed to deal with my children,

alistron1 · 25/10/2012 14:08

Send it to the school. IME Facebook stuff very often spills over into real life. My DP (secondary school teacher) hates facebook. It causes so many problems.

ClippedPhoenix · 25/10/2012 14:19

Because MrsJay everything seems to land on the schools doorstep these days it's ridiculous. I personally think that schools are there to teach academia, the rest is down to responsible parents.

Sallyingforth · 25/10/2012 14:23

So now in addition to all the other duties that schools have to take on, they have got to teach children how to use sodding Facebook?
Some things like social responsibility should be the job of parents.

safflower · 25/10/2012 15:16

Am with Cl;ipped on this. Why pass it over to the school. The parent has the responsibility of the child.

Bunbaker · 25/10/2012 15:20

Sallyingforth I'm sorry, but I think you are being rather naive.

This is what happened last week near us.

ClippedPhoenix · 25/10/2012 15:34

Why is it being naive to think that this should be the parents responsibility? Unfortunately, there seem to be a lot of parents that aren't shouldering this, it's still not down to the school though.

Bunbaker · 25/10/2012 15:43

It should be the parents' responsibility, I agree, but when parents are posting "like" on the FB news item in my link it is obvious that they aren't being responsible at all. And why should children suffer at the hands of bullies because their parents won't behave responsibly?

The schools in question have decided to act simply because of the parents being irresponsible.

JoanBias · 25/10/2012 15:45

Report it to the police, then inform the school that you have done so.

ClippedPhoenix · 25/10/2012 15:46

But the trouble with that Bunbaker is where does it end? Then if things don't get resolved etc. it all falls on the school. What a bloody job, I'd not want to be a teacher these days for all the tea in China. When are the teachers able to actually "Teach" academia? Half the time these days it's trying to instill what inadequate parents can't and its wrong.

Bunbaker · 25/10/2012 15:54

You are right ClippedPhoenix. At DD's school the teachers do actually teach, but they have non teaching staff to deal with pastoral issues like bullying and the fallout from FB. I can tell you that they hate FB and they are frustrated with parents parents who allow children under 13 to have a FB account, and with parents who don't reinforce the message that the children have to behave responsibly when posting.

With modern methods of communication it is too easy to say nasty things to people you would never say to their face.

ClippedPhoenix · 25/10/2012 15:58

Unfortunately Bunbaker this is the downside.

I personally believe the actual site should be responsible and have people in place to ban the perpertrators/follow these things up. The amounts of money these things make it should be a given.

If not then the site should be closed down.

Sallyingforth · 25/10/2012 16:03

Absolutely Phoenix.

At my local infants they are teaching kids to use the lavatory, eat with tools instead of fingers, and start to use English because they have never heard it at home.
It seems that some parents take no responsibility for any aspect of their kids upbringing.
This is not what schools should be doing.

ClippedPhoenix · 25/10/2012 16:11

It's so sad huh Sally Sad

There should be a defined list of things sent out to the parents requesting a place that are mandatory before sending the child to school. Obviously SN doesn't come into this, which goes without saying.

If these are not achieved then a call from SS would be put in place.

EscapeInThePark · 25/10/2012 16:26

Actually, that's why if it is so bad that it is unlawful (and bullying IS unlawful), then it should be reported to the Police.

Atm, the schools are trying to teach good manners to children who aren't taught that at school, perhaps because their parents are ignorant (as in not knowing), perhaps because their parents think it's OK to behave like this or for any other reason.
But if it is a matter of behaving so badly that in a few years time they could end up in prison for it (eg for harassment) then I think it should be dealt for what it and be reported to the Police. It might that, then, and only then they will realize the seriousness of their behaviour.

On the other side, the 'good' use of internet is already taught in schools, right from Y1. In that respect, the unreasonable use of FB etc... which then leads to bullying etc... is part of the school remit.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes · 25/10/2012 16:44

Why is it up to the school to teach tolerance? its up to parents too but if a child comes from a family where racist views are held high then school is the obvious place to see a different viewpoint. Plus schools have a mix of people in them some black, some gay, some with different family set ups and religions, they should ensure that their values and ethos respect human rights. Its just common sense that you dont just teach academic subjects and ignore behaviour

nearlyNovember · 25/10/2012 23:33

I'll thank you all again. It's printed off now - will drop a note into the HT re the bullying. I hope he can read FB vernacular.
"And unless this was actually aimed at the OP's family then she should stop twitching those curtains." - OK I'll bite. Here's a few choice quotes - maybe you'll finally understand why this needs addressing evern though it doesn;t affect me and mine directly.

indians verse whites ahahahaa god hates you pple
Now, talk about my friends like this again, I'll cut you. kay, thanks, bye.

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slatternlymother · 25/10/2012 23:42

Yes, certainly report that to the HT.

However, you need to ask for the above post to be deleted, because there's no need to advertise this.

ClippedPhoenix · 26/10/2012 11:00

Blimey! I take back all I said now, if you had have shown this in the beginning then I'm sure you'd have had more people on your side. I'd go to the police with that though.

Good Luck.

Mrsjay · 26/10/2012 14:26

Why is it being naive to think that this should be the parents responsibility?

Personally I shoulder responsibility but when your child is being bullied in and out of school by the same person then I think it is also the schools responsibility to jump in ALONGSIDE parents, do you think schools shouldn't deal with bullies and just acedemia , social responsibility isn't just a parents job imo .

Mrsjay · 26/10/2012 14:28

nearlynovember I hope you get somewhere with that it is disgusting