Anti Semitic teenage girls - WIU to say nothing?

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Sitting outside the pub with sleeping DS. Four teenaged girls - say 14/15 years old - hanging round practising dance routines. They're being quite noisy but seem OK until a boy arrives to retrieve his coat. The girls chased after him repeatedly calling him a ''fucking Jewish prick". I'm totally stunned and would normally say something but didn't - mainly because I'm with the baby, but also as I don't know what I would say. I suppose I was unreasonable to say nothing but I was quite taken aback and a bit intimidated by them. What would you have done or said?

Can't they be a supremacist prick?

Calling anyone a white prick or a jewish prick is unnecessary and illegal.

A prick is a prick...just as a douche is a douche.

I'm quite sure prick or douche will suffice as an insult without needing to be so 'specific'.

MsAverage- I think you'll find that the white supremacist is, in fact a racist prick.

Oh, and what happens if the Jewish person in question happens to be white?

Worra, they can. The question is why they can not be white/Jewsh pricks. Why it is unnecessary if it goes to the core of the issue?

Because a prick is a prick is a prick.

Black prick
White prick
Male prick
Female prick
Jewish prick
Catholic prick
Muslim prick
etc etc etc

The colour, race, religion or sex does not define a prick.

They're all by the by when the issue is the fact the person is or is not being a prick.

Having said that, 'prick' is another word for penis and personally I don't think penises are a bad thing

Worra, if you have a general, non-specific douche, adding "back/white/Catholic/Jewish" would be wrong, because it is irrelevant. My constructed case is precisely about situation when attitude to race defines prickness.

About penises. Strangely enough, in my first language adjectives deriving from the word with the sense "penis" have negative meaning, while whose deriving from "vagina" - strongly positive. No clue why.

I think MsAverage is being very clear in her meaning.

Like, if the teenage girls had been screaming, "you black bastard", she would have suggested the victim might actually be a black bastard. Or that he might be guilty of the 'twin' issue of anti-white racism?

MsAverage, I'm not a great one for reporting posters and I'm not reporting you. But yeah, I know exactly where you're coming from. And it's not a pretty place.

Msaverage - are you suggesting that this boy possibly provoked a racist assault by earlier being a Jewish supremacist? So he deserved it? Wtf???

Debora - don't report, I think it's important to see racism apologists for what they are

I teach teenagers and am therefore completely unable to ignore poor behaviour, I'm afraid. I shall probably be stabbed in the street one day. I am forever telling unknown teenagers off. Sitting near a sleeping baby with noisy teenage girls practising dance routines I would have asked them to keep the noise down long before the boy had arrived. And there's no way I could have let abusive language go.

I'm stunned that 14/15 year old kids said something so horrible. And I'm even more shocked that there are adults that can condone, tolerate, and/or justify such a statement.

Re: Jewish supremacism

I know many, many Jews, and I have never met one who had took a superior attitude to anyone else.

"My constructed case is precisely about situation when attitude to race defines prickness."

Then why are you not using the term 'racist prick' or even, at a push, 'Zionist prick'? After all, these terms refer specifically to attitudes to race.

The terms you cite refer only to race, not an attitude towards it- this makes someone using your examples look like, well, a racist prick.

OP, don't feel bad. It's hard in the heat of the moment. Besides when people are in a group it's hard to shock them in the way that you'd have to. They'll get the message probably sooner rather than later; in any case they will get the messagefull stop if they plan on living in the UK, it's so unacceptable.

I have a (mildly) anti Semitic uncle- I'm 19- he just gets mildly amused when I act shocked. I don't do it in an over the top way. He's young! 38, with two small kids. Just because he's had some bad experiences at his work with people who happen to be Jews. My dad did say that my mum's side of the family were likely to have been anti-Dreyfusards over a century ago (prominent French family....gah). Can't change him, can talk to his kids, can talk to my mum about him, can walk away when he starts.

I was in a queue yesterday and was next in line for the cashier, stepped aside to let the last customer go past, and the woman behind me coolly brushed past me and took my place! Plus she took ages
I didn't say anything. I should have. I did say 'hey-' but too softly. But didn't want to be the person who gets all huffy about little things like that. But I feel much more confident than I used to, I notice it every day, and I would be able to do it......I just don't want her to turn round and give me a look it's hard to develop this kind of instinct really.

Things what I have learnt from this experience: I'm glad I didn't challenge the girls as my baby's welfare is paramount, but I wish I'd thought to ring the Police non-emergency number; I hope that msaverage's name is ironic as I'd consider her/him to be msextreme and maybe 'Jewish' has joined other words as a generic form of insult or abuse à la Chris Moyles' use of 'gay'. All very concerning and sad. Blatant racism seems to be rearing its head again. Thanks for the replies everyone.

I used to teach in a rural school in dorset. Jew, or rabbi were commonly used insults, I doubt the boy even was Jewish. Most of the kids barely knew what they were saying (not an excuse), its the new "gay", said without logic or meaning. I always used to tear strips off them for it, many other teachers didn't bother.
I have a common jewish surname (DH is Jewish by descent, but not by religion for a few generations), I used to use personal offense to drive it home (as in "that's my family you are talking about. ") they really had no idea who a Jew might be, or how many of their heroes might be jewish.
Claiming a boy was circumcised was also a common "tease".
I'm not sure how I would tackle it outside a school environment where I had no clear authority though. Depends on what they were like generally I think.

wow, I'm really disturbed to hear this - re. 'Jewish' as an insult.

Msaverage, you don't know what you are talking about.

I have intervened several times in incidents such as this, once when a boy was having the shit kicked out of him in broad daylight by a gang, and three burly men walked past and did nothing. I jumped out of my car and shouted at them, luckily they just ran away- I think possibly the sight of an angry woman shouting at them in the street reminded them of their Mums! My DH is always telling me to be careful as one day I might get stabbed, but I cannot ignore that kind of bad behaviour. I think it is really sad that people are afraid to get involved for those reasons. You had your DD with you and that made you feel vulnerable, so I don't think you were being unreasonable in this case.

Strange pub to have sleeping children, teenage dance routines & an adult too afraid of said racist teenagers... you can only answer your question yourself but you wouldn't be asking if there wasn't some doubt in your mind. Did options like approaching the bar staff to ask for Management, Approaching the boy to ask if he was ok or wanted a witness for when the police arrive not cross your mind at the time? You had other options. What time of day was it?