To not really see the teachers point of view for punishing dd for this..

[Lilyloo]

Today I got told that dd had been hardwork. She had painted her hands at the easel and made handprint pictures.
She then tipped a box of bricks over, albeit the teacher said it was tidy up time and they had been tidied up. When speaking to dd she said she was going to build a castle and she hadn't heard it was tidy up time.
I can see the teachers point of view on this as she should have been listening. However when I tried to talk to dd about it she said, next time she will tip the bricks up in the construction area as that would have been better, which leads me to think she doesn't associate the 'wrong behavior as doing it at tidy up time rather it was where she did it.
But the first incident seems bizarre to me, I work in a nursery and we would never punish a child for that.
I have supported the teacher, dd missed story and had to tidy the bricks up, and I have followed it through at home but I am still struggling to see her point.

Did she miss story as a punishment though or as a result of picking up the bricks that she had tipped out?

Yeah diddle maybe I misunderstood that

As for the hand painting-well, if they hadn´t been told not to do it-once they know how...

I'm surprised at the comments you have got. I think the teacher sounds very unreasonable, and the hand painting and tipping out toys at tidy up time are very normal and insignificant things for a curious 4 year old. How odd. Maybe it was the manner in which she did them, perhaps continued after she had been told, and understood she had to stop, and that is what the teacher failed to get across. I hope so, or the teacher is way to uptight to be working with 4 year old's! Perhaps you could ask her to clarify?

Thanks Dave, I guess she must have tested her patience today as she said she really had to shout at her after the brick incident probably just one of those days.

i don't get it either and have read the thread over and over.

If she painted her hands and was smearing it every where I could understand, but she printed her hands on paper.

In a busy classroom she may not had heard the teacher saying it was tidy up time.

I share your concern tbh.

There's absolutely nothing "naughty" about a reception child painting their hands, at the easel then doing hand prints.

A YR teacher thinking that behaviour is naughty is way out of line.

I would also worry about a YR teacher having to "really shout" at a four year old. I'd keep a close eye on things and arrange a meeting if this kind of thing happens again.

I'm not sure a teacher should ever have to really shout at a child, especially one in the first term of reception. That would have worried me a lot more than any of the other stuff.

Perhaps the kids were told to keep the paint on the paper?

Hand painting is good but only when closely supervised, otherwise it's likely to end up all over everything and everyone she touches?

Her exact words were 'hardwork' and she said she had had to really shout at her this afternoon.

The teacher told you she really shouted at DD, if my DS (4) teacher told me she really shouted at him, I would be complaining to the head!!!!!!!

(Unless he was about to really hurt himself and the shout was to to stop him quickly).

I didnt think they were suppose to shout?

Mchappy that was my thought I was expecting her to say she had painted her hands then put it on the wall etc not paper. I do wonder if she felt it was a bit of an over reaction when she followed up with 'i know it sounds a bit petty'.

I was a little shocked with the shouting thing to hence saying I can't really understand the punishment for what was effectively two minor incidents.

Perhaps she's been told not to paint on her hands & perhaps the tipping up bricks was just an extra annoyance for the teacher at tidy up time.

AFAIK, teachers do, on occasion, shout, even at 4yr olds, especially if they seem to be not listening or repeatedly ignoring instructions.

No, unless a child has been extremely naughty, a teacher has no need to be shouting at a four year old.