To think the punishment doesn't fit the crime and wonder are we really this intolerant

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man pours drink over toddler

So an angry punter pours a drink over a grizzling 15 month old in a pub, and then kicks the mother when she reacts, he gets a fine. I think he should have received at least a short custodial sentence for assaulting a baby and an adult.

Also raises the question, should we be more or less tolerant of children? Judging by some of the comments people obviously think he was justified. Personally I think we could all be a bit more tolerant of children. Yes they can be very annoying, and yes sometimes adults just want to escape kids. But there ARE places you can go where children are either not allowed or very unlikely to be. Also while they can be annoying, they are part of society, part of life, there are lots of things in life that are.

I flew back from holiday recently and there was a very grizzly baby who cried for about the first hour, although I found the cheesy flight attendants, the stink of aeroplane food at 2.00am more annoying than the baby.

pasta having read through, most of the comments in seem to be agreeing with the twat man. I mean noone could even describe a 15 month old as playing up.

I'm quite lucky in that i've always eaten out loads and ds has always been really 'good' as in not whinging, sitting nicely, eating nicely. But even when I do see kids kicking off I tend to have only sympathy for the parents.

Only time I get tutty or judgy is if a kid is out really late at night, or you know the times when it's going on and on and you do think take them outside for five minutes for some fresh air and a calm down. But I find mostly children do behave well and most parents are pretty good at popping outside if a tantrum gets really bad.

Well maybe they should. And this is a baby imo if you can throw something at a baby you're pretty much a loose cannon and capable of anything.

He should be given community service working with whingey babies and a massive fine.

The thing is, it's really expensive to keep people in prison, they are fit to bursting, and people tend to come out of prison worse than they go in. I think maybe something like community service/anger management course might have been more fitting, but not prison.

Why bother getting wound up about comments on Daily Mail website?

I thought it was basically understood that most of the people who comment on there are fuckwits?

Its a baby though. Its not common assault. Its child abuse ffs.

How much was he fined?

ohforsuckssake is right. If you can do that to a baby in public lord knows what you are capable of in private.

Hate the comments.

Ok I agree, community service would have been better, in a nursery, cleaning up baby poo.

And ye worra, you're right, but really can't believe that there are actually so many fuckwits, aren't they all extinct yet?

I think I would have headbutted him, it would be my first reaction i think and i am quite embarrassed by that.

If i saw someone close to doing that to my child i honestly would go ballistic.

a mandatory anger management course would have been better. as well as a larger fine.

what a tosspot.

i note he is from oop north, where all male bars were still extant not that long ago...

I think a custodial sentence for this with one of those crying doll things they give kids to take home to learn about childcare and babies. Once that cried every ten minutes all night.....

Extinct?

If only

They appear to be breeding

There's a woman at work that shouts, actually she screams when she's on the phone, and repeats herself over and over. Can I throw my coffee over her, she's an adult so no excuse.

Actually put her in a room for a week with the man, he'd find her far more annoying than the baby.

Edgar, that really isn't the case

A vicious twat with no boundaries can be from anywhere in the country

Have you been reading the racist Scottish thread by any chance ?

but it sounds like a relatively minor assault how do you work out any assult on a baby as 'minor'

He's still a twat - but its the Daily Fail and the sensationalist headline that's misleading. Now, I don't condone it BUT the article actually states he threw the beer at the table - it went on the child by accident...

"He threw the beer in the general direction of the table where the females were sitting" "He accepts that beer went over the baby and that his actions were reckless."

justine it's contradicting because the article also says that the mother claims he poured the drink over the babies head.

The man is a git but a custodial sentence would be OTT.

*What that bloke did was not a "minor assault"
That is a terrifying thought. What could he have done that was "major" ? *

Oh come on! I am not condoning his actions in the slightest but it was minor. If you really can't think of anything worse he could have done that could have been considered major you are not trying very hard.

But a largeish fine and a criminal record is surely correct? Hopefully he will be banned from the pub too. He should be.

As Worra said about the comments - it is the Mail so pointless taking them seriously.

5, I can think of many things a fully grown bloke who felt it ok to throw beer at a baby might be capable of

My question was rhetorical

And aimed at a poster on this thread, not some pillocks on the dm site

Kelly Pretty obvious I'd think - Pouring a pint over child = minor, but still assault obviously. Physically hurting a child = major.

I think it must be very scary to live in a world where pouring a pint over a baby is classed as "minor"

I think it must be very scary to live in a world where pouring a pint over a baby is classed as "minor"

But it is relative isn't it? If you decided pouring a pint over the baby was "major" then what would you call it if he had used the glass to hit someone in the face? The latter scenario is surely many times worse but if you have already counted a drenching as major then you have nowhere to go. If you count them both as major then you would be, IMO, devaluing the seriousness of the worse assault.