to think parents videoing school assemblies and posting the video on facebook is wrong

[mamabanana]

Just noticed a post from a friend on facebook with a video link to a class assembly. I honestly don't think the person posting has thought through their actions, but surely it is against most school policies? If the school record something, they have to get every parent to sign to say they agree to their child being videoed. I have no problem with parents videoing their children to watch back, but posting it on social media????

What do you think and what would you do? Am I overreacting? I need a second opinion before I speak to friend or even the school about it.

There is a setting where you can review anything you are tagged in before it goes on your timeline.

If you are tagged in a photo you can also remove that tag.

YouMay, you wouldn't have been "tagged" in the true Facebook sense of the word, but your name could appear alongside a photo. So if someone who knows you is a Facebook friend with the person who posted the photo, they might look at it and comment to you "I saw you tagged in a Facebook photo last night", but what they mean is that they saw your name listed alongside the photo.

Have just checked my facebook, and you can set your privacy setting to inform you if someone tries to tag you; you can disallow these individuals tags.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but expecting people who do it to stop doing it just because they get a letter from the school is a bit naive. People don't care.

I disagree with you GoSaku. Yes, some might not stop, but the majority of people doing it are just being naive and underinformed re privacy and also not thinking about serious safeguarding issues. I think it would stop the majority which is better than nothing.

Thanks for the explanation Families! :)

Thanks for your earlier explanation as well, Families
To someone not using Facebook, and I know we'll be in the minority here, having our name or our DC's names posted alongside a photograph comes to pretty much the same thing as being tagged, except we don't get to find out about it.

Thanks to attitudes like some of the posters on this thread, at our school we are not allowed to take photos/ videos of our children in school. The HT enforces it too.

We were allowed to take photos at sports day because the children were not in uniform and were not at the school, so couldn't be traced so easily, but we were asked not to share on FB.

Gosakura, I'm just catching up with this now so forgive me - but earlier you say that no one can share your photos even though they have access to them through facebook.

Or download them.

Well, why in that case do I have copies of quite a few of my best friend's photographs, whichshe uploaded and I saved (without her knowledge) before I deleted my account?

She's dead now so I can't ask her about her settings, but I'm almost certain there's no way to stop people who can look at your photos from right clicking them to save to their own PC.

Don't newspapers take photos from people facebook accounts all the time?

Because of the settings, as I have described in detail.

YANBU, it's a huge no no (for reasons already given). I went to see my niece's end of term show and was surprised that the Head only advised parents to 'use their discretion' when posting videos/photos. IME you have to spell it out for people, as there will always be at least one idiot who'll post something to the likes of Facebook.

GoSakura - you cannot stop people who have permissions to view your photos from downloading them.

So no tagging then. My privacy is set to friends only, not friends of friends. Will crop & blur, yes you can do it with video as you edit it frame by frame. If it's less than 2 mins, it's not that onerous.

I will continue to use FB to share my pictures and videos, but I will crop/blur anyone that I don't have permission from.

That's the thing, you have to come to a compromise, not just say nope, you can't do this. My compromise is that in future, I will crop/blur anyone's face that I don't have permission to post.

Though I did wonder, does that include adults in a crowd scene? When the local paper takes a picture of the crowd at the fair and publishes it and puts it online, do they get permission from everyone in that crowd?

I can't see that they do. So why is this different? A FC child in the crowd at a fair on the front page is just as out in the open as a short video of an assembly put on FB that has them not in full focus, in the background? I only ever keep them up for a week, all my family have seen it within 7 days, then they are taken down. Can't see the difference, personally.

I will however take on board what has been explained to me, and crop/blur anyone I don't have permission for, but the videos will still be going on fb.

It's called compromise. I compromise on faffing around with cropping & blurring, they compromise on the videos and pictures being on fb albeit with their DC/FC child's face obscured.

Sorry, I missed how you set your FB to prevent people who can already see your photos, from downloading them.

Could you possibly repeat this for me, I can't find it?

Thanks

Couthy, the difference is that adults are adults, and therefore are presumed (generally) to be able to cope with being identified.

The problem with school events is the school uniform, and (if people are tagged who don't have good privacy) the ease of finding where the school is, which makes tracing the children very easy.

When dd was small we didn't let any photographs of her go into the local newspaper. We also were careful of her in photographs with identifiable things in them - school uniform, district neckers in guides, specific sports teams etc.

Those are the things that make people identifiable. And walking down a street she meets people (generally) who live nearby. Once photographs are on Facebook they are spread over a much wider area. As many cared for children are moved area to protect them from their families, it is the people outside the area publishing them to a wider audience that is the really big problem.

People taking photographs and showing them around at the local toddler group isn't as big an issue.

We don't trust FB and use dropbox to share videos of DD and her friends.

The problem with school events is the school uniform, and (if people are tagged who don't have good privacy) the ease of finding where the school is, which makes tracing the children very easy.

Yes. My FC's birth parents do not know where they are. FC has been moved away from their immediate area, but a pic of them posted on FB wearing their uniform will advertise where they'll be 9.00am - 3.00pm Monday to Friday to a wide audience. From that, it's not difficult to find out where they live, where they are at certain times and what places they frequent.

My settings on my FB page are set very tightly. I have no tagging and friends only settings, but Child X's mum who takes a photo in a school assembly which includes my FC may not have such strict settings

It also applies to scout/guide uniforms, pics in newspapers, etc. Social Services will not allow it.

Our school doesn't ban posting pics on FB outright, just not pics where other children are included.

I am not fussed about my children's pics on FB, but we have to be strict about our FC's pics appearing on there. Our school is very hot on it (there are several FC/children with CP issues in the school) and fortunately the rest of the parents are supportive

This is the reason why i do not have any photos/videos of my dd at school.

Instead the school now employ a photographer who charges £10 per photo.

If i wanted my dd to be broadcast over the internet i would do it myself.

For those who really find FB useful for family and friends, why not create a blog. You can password protect it. Several of our family members have them and it's really nice to see what people are up to.

I just email photos to family and friends. Cut out the middle man/woman!

That is the problem, isn't it WildWorld.

If parents would stop putting things on Facebook, then schools could allow photographs/videos to be made.

Because of parents breaking the privacy rules and requests, it is getting to the stage that schools ban photography completely .

So I won't upset people if I crop out/ blur background faces, but keep my DS's face clear?

And how come my DD's friend in FC is on fb and posting pictures of her and her friends in uniform then? Should I tell her Foster Carers that she does this? I didn't know that this would be an issue, because all the FC DC's that I know are on fb and post 100's of pictures of them and their friends every day.

So I didn't really think of this as an issue I guess.

Can you do a blog from an iPhone? And can you post it on fb so that every one of your family can know that I have posted something up? I can't use the laptop now because of my joint issues, I need to use touchscreen typing.

So I have to be able to do everything on my iPhone. If I can't do it on the iPhone, I can't do it. And I can't use Safari for more than 15 minutes a month because MN and fb use my dongle Internet but Safari uses my Internet from my phone provider.

That's why I do EVERYTHING through Apps and fb, because I can't physically use the laptop, and can't afford to use Safari.

Couthy, even with the issue of foster kids aside, to me posting pictures of other people's children on the internet without their permission is just plain bad manners.