To not understand people who want to get rid of the tv licence but watch iplayer

[MeFour]

If none of us bought a tv licence and all wanted to watch everything after the event on iplayer there would be nothing to watch as they wouldn't have the money. Yes they get money from other sources but surely iplayer is one of the things that would go.

And I spend enough of my day looking at the pc/laptop screen. I definitely don't want to start watching tv programmes on it.

I don't pay for a TV license because I don't have a TV. I do watch iplayer for free, but I would more then happily pay for some of the programmes to download/watch as I do think that the BBC is worth the money. I think they were considering bringing out a system that allowed you to pay to download some of the series, but I don't know what's going on with that. I see where you're coming from OP, but if I don't have to pay for it then I won't.

"
I think cbeebies alone is worth the TV license fee."

well said :)

I've got a big HD monitor and a nice stereo, so iplayer works well for me. I'd consider paying for content if it was sensibly priced but I wouldn't pay for a tv licence because i don't need one. Never have done...

YANBU we have friends who watch iplayer without a TV licence and think that there shouldn't be one at all because they can make all the money they need to make these programmes by 'selling rights overseas'. Yeah right. These are the same people who live in London but have joined the Scottish National Trust because they pay less but can still get into all the English properties for free, even though their subscription contributes nothing to the upkeep. If we all did this these organisations wouldn't survive.

The BBC also have to pay sky several million a year for the privilege of having their channels screened by Sky. God knows why but the do.

LRD if the BBC did not receive the licence fee, there would be no iPlayer - that is my point. Like the NHS is not free - we pay for it via a compliacted system of taxes inc NICs. ITV is not free, advertisers pay for it. The BBC is not free, licence payers pay for it.

You are confusing 'at the point of service' with 'no cost'.

You're not going to love me, but I don't pay very much tax, either. It goes with no having a lot of money.

I'm not confusing anything, though. It is free to me. I am not stupid, and I don't think the money for making it comes from nothing.

But you need to realize that the BBC is partly there to educate. It's meant to be accessible.

If you don't drive a car, but still occasionally cross the road, should you feel guilty that you don't pay road tax? Obviously not ... you know the taxes you do pay go to all sorts of things, and road tax is paid only by a subset of the population, because it's been decided they should pay for what they do.

I don't watch programmes live, so I don't pay to watch programmes live.

from the TV licensing authority's website:
All of this content ? and the television channels, radio stations and online spaces where audiences can find it ? is paid for by the licence fee, allowing BBC's UK services to remain free of advertisements and independent of shareholder and political interest.

just because you an physically watch it for free doesn't mean it doesn't cost money to provide. The BBC online services in total cost £186.8 m in 2012 (source Guardian newspaper)

over, did you not read my post?

I know it costs money to provide.

It is nevertheless free to me.

If the BBC wished people to pay for time-delayed programmes, I would of course pay. But they do not.

Now, I assume that they actually make decisions based on what their ethical stance and their financial needs are. Some people assume, OTOH, that busybodies who like judging other people who're poorer than them, are much better placed than the BBC to decide. Why is this?

I pay my tv license even though I don't have a telly. I think I would actually die without Radio 4. Really expire!

I don't mind the TV licence as BBC is now the only UK broadcaster making programmes for children.
If they went we would only have programmes made in America. I am not American and I don't want DD talking with an American accent and I do want her to see programmes about her own culture.

Programmes with adverts - well, every product that advertises on TV means that there is a 20% uplift on the price of that product to pay for those adverts. So this TV is not free - you pay for it through your shopping bills.

"If they went we would only have programmes made in America"

I don't think that is quite true. There are plenty of programmes on Nick that are made in the UK. DD watches programmes made in UK, US, Norway, Mexico, China etc.

"I am not American and I don't want DD talking with an American accent and I do want her to see programmes about her own culture"

I think I'd rather my DD was culturally diverse.

The tv licence doesn't only pay for the BBC although this is the lions share of the costs (paying for transmitted and Internet content) it also contributes towards channel 4 , S4C, digital switchover, the costs of transmitters, local and network radio and the government.
The BBC is just the obvious bit.
Loads of countries have a requirement for a TV licence (and some for radio) and if you compare them we actually get quite a reasonable deal. Some countries don't have a licence and pay for public broadcasting through taxation instead.

I don't like the licence fee as I think it is disingenuous to call it a licence fee when it is a tax that must be paid regardless of whether you have anything to do with the BBC. I think some for of subscriber access should be used which I would probably pay for. I was once told I was wrong on this though as a friend said but then 'poor people wouldn't pay for it and they need to see quality programmes not just ITV'

However what also really bugs me is that people think it prevents them having to watch adverts - there are adverts on the BBC continually for DVDs, radio stations, tv stations etc. They just all happen to be BBC DVDs, radio stations, tv stations etc.

...Also Dr Who. And ridiculous Sunday night dramas from the land of mandatory hats. University Challenge. Paxo generally. Sunday Worship and shouting at the witterings of the thinker Of The Day. Just aaaaaaa minutttttte. More or Less. Ouch! When people get all clappy and noddy on Question Time and then remixing it on Youtube. The hypnotic effect of CBeebies (thank the universe). Googling dinner off the good food section. Those gentle, soul-soothing documentaries on the Secret Life of Bath Mould.

Sorry I might be wrong with this or misunderstood your post op, but I thought you needed a tv licence to watch things like iplayer and 4od ect.

No you don't hairy. Only for watching live