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Would it be unreasonable not to contact my parents again?

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struggling100 · 09/10/2012 15:00

I am looking for advice about how to deal with my parents.

They live around 300 miles away from me, and my 31 year old sister lives in the same house. My mother and my sister both suffer from anxiety and depression; my Mum rarely leaves the house and does not socialize, but my sister's mental illness is not so bad that she can't work or go out.

My sister and I are treated in completely different ways. My sister is literally waited on hand and foot: my mother does everything from making her breakfast to doing her laundry. Despite the fact that my sister has an excellent, well-paid job (as does her partner), my parents charge her a very low rent. She has been able to save thousands and thousands of pounds, which she intends to use to buy a massive and luxurious house with all mod cons (she is literally refusing to move out until she can do this). She sees this as a birthright, even though none of my family are especially wealthy. My parents are massively invested in my sister's life - they even tell tales to me when I visit about her work colleagues, whom they have never met. Of course, my sister is always the heroine of these stories. It's weird.

By contrast, my parents offer me no support whatsoever. My whole life, I have had to battle through by myself, and believe me, I've had some very tough times over the years. Four years ago, I got divorced from a man who was emotionally and physically abusive, who isolated me from the outside world and then undermined my confidence. We owned a house together, and I could not afford to rent a place and keep up with the mortgage payments for which I was half responsible. I therefore had to stay in the house, even though I was being bullied and was terrified. Even though I was in physical danger, my parents offered me no help, financially or emotionally. Instead, they made it clear that they did not believe my side of the story. They accused me (untruly) of having an affair and even invited my ex-partner around for tea on numerous occasions. My sister continues to be good friends with him. Not only do I find this emotionally difficult, but it has caused me no end of practical problems. When I raised this (gently) as an issue, all three of them told me that I had no right to control their relationship with him.

I am always the one who calls. I am always the one who drives to make visits. They make absolutely no effort at all with the relationship, and their manner makes it clear that I am seen as a wearisome 'duty'. When I say things, there are exchanged glances and rolled eyes. Sometimes on the phone I can hear them making fun of me. Every thing I say is pored over with minute attention, and twisted to give it the most noxious meaning, when none is intended. I literally can?t do anything right.

When I met a new man after my divorce, my parents told me that he was bound to be abusive and was exploiting me, and refused to meet him for many months. When they finally did come round to the idea, my Mum behaved with absolute and direct rudeness to him. Even now, three years on, she refuses to shake his hand or touch him on the grounds that she is ?not sure about him yet?.

I was due to get married earlier in the year. When I mentioned this, all my parents could think about was themselves ? they couldn?t drive the 300 miles to the venue, they didn?t want to dress up, they didn?t want to eat in front of people, they didn?t want to socialise. I tried to be understanding (I know my mum is depressed), said that they didn?t have to get dressed up or eat, that they could just attend whatever bits they wanted to. This was not enough and I was branded selfish for having a public ceremony. When my wedding was cancelled (my partner had a bout of mental illness and was suicidal, it was awful), my parents could barely contain their joy that they didn?t have to travel.

I am a good person. I work hard, and while I am not wealthy and never likely to be able to afford the kind of lifestyle my sister aspires to, I don't want for anything either. I have never asked for financial help. I don?t understand how my parents can be so completely focused on one child, to the utter exclusion of another. I feel deeply rejected and hurt, and it?s affecting my day-to-day life.

I don?t honestly know if it is possible for me to continue having a relationship with them and bear this pain all the time. If I say anything about it, I know that it will be twisted the wrong way. Does anyone have advice for me?

OP posts:
Lottapianos · 10/10/2012 11:59

'I am miserable, irritable, irrationally angry, stressed, and enormously upset'

Just one more thing struggling100. Please don't think that your anger is irrational - you have every right to feel angry with your family's behaviour. I am the worst person at taking my own advice here, but please try to hold onto the fact that your feelings are valid. If you feel something, there is a good reason for it and it is ok. I know it can feel scary and irrational but it sounds like you have had a lifetime of other people telling you your feelings are wrong, so it's not surprising that you doubt yourself. Just naming your feelings (as you have done) can help to acknowledge them and let them out.

I'm so sorry that so many of us are going through this Sad

PanickingIdiot · 10/10/2012 12:59

Just to be the voice of dissent here - I'm the same age as you OP. My parents are possibly quite a bit older than yours, which may be why I see this a bit differently, but, tbh, 34 is not the age to be expecting support and help from parents. It is (or close to) the age to be providing it.

Is it possible that your sister living with them benefits not only your sister, but your parents, too? Especially seeing as you don't live nearby? I know people younger than me who are (or have been) full-time carers to their ageing or dying parents. If yours are in good enough health to be independent, count your blessings. I get that you are hurt, but put this in a bit of perspective.

You're an adult with your own relationship, and possibly your own family in the near future. Focus on that. Build your own support network if you need one. Never mind what your sister does with her own life or how your parents choose to live theirs. I sympathise with your sentiments but, honestly, I think you're better off looking forwards, not backwards.

PanickingIdiot · 10/10/2012 13:08

Oh, and my husband and I didn't have a wedding either, one of the many reasons being that both his and my parents would have found the travel and the upheaval too much of an ordeal. (Not that I'm a big fan of mega-weddings anyway.) We never told them this as we didn't want them to feel guilty, as if they had deprived us from something we wanted - it's very far from the truth.

Sorry to be harsh, but they didn't get old and fragile deliberately to upset you.

airforceone · 10/10/2012 13:13

OP, you sound like a very fine person. Can I be really bossy and just tell you what I've learned from my very similar journey? I don't have much time so hence bullet points.

  • Separating from your parents now will spare you all the little ongoing niggles but it won't take away the deep confusion, anger and hurt that you're experiencing. To get over that, you have to realise that your DP are so deeply flawed that they lack the capacity to love in the way you'd like them to. You need to do whatever will give you the space to realise that and come to terms with it.

  • My DM rewarded any sign of independence with put-downs, threats and withdrawals. She even liked it when I was underweight so she could call me 'tiny' and buy child-sized, pretty clothes. It took me years to realise that I could only please her by staying 'tiny' in every way. Although there was anger at that point, I also began to feel sorry for her. She has grown old without growing up, and missed out on so much as a result. I also began to mourn the mother I didn't have and the relationship that would never be. Don't underestimate that! It's an ongoing sadness but has become a lot easier to handle now I understand it and am resigned to it.

  • When I worked out that my suffocating nurturing DM actually couldn't cope with my growing up, I tried to be the adult in the relationship by making her feel included and safe. That was the last things she was interested in! I had taken her little girl away and now I was trying to patronise her! She just didn't have the capacity to respond well. I can't change her.

  • Being a parent does bring it all up again. I was unprepared for that! You're thrown into a new situation without any mother-daughter 'scripts' with which to make sense of motherhood. Loving my DD like I do, it also makes my DM's selfish behaviour seem all the more inexplicable. Also, it's a special joy to share your baby with your mum, as nobody else 'gets it' the way they do, so it's sad to lose out on the joy of doing that. However, what matters is that my DD and I are breaking new ground together. Our love is all our own with its own share of screw-ups.

I hope you work your way to a place of peace, OP! Good luck! :)

Lottapianos · 10/10/2012 16:00

'Sorry to be harsh, but they didn't get old and fragile deliberately to upset you'

PanickingIdiot, OP is not complaining that her parents are a burden to her. She is not expecting them to hold her hand or be there for her every minute of every day. She is just expecting them to show some interest in her life, to show that they care about her, that she is important to them, and that they can see her as a separate person rather than just who they would like her to be. None of those are unreasonable things, they are things that lots of people take for granted. OP has a right to expect her parents to be considerate towards her and to communicate with her, however old they are.

PanickingIdiot · 10/10/2012 19:35

I didn't get the impression from the OP that she just wanted her parents to be considerate. From where I sit, it looks like she's comparing how much she and her sister each "benefit" from their parents, mostly materially, and being "incredibly upset" over petty things like having to call them and drive to their place.

Sorry, but at 34 you really can't take your parents' support for granted. Several of my friends that age have already buried a parent or two, and for those of us whose parents are still alive, they are not really a source of support but rather our dependants who require support from us.

My opinion would be different if the parents were being deliberately difficult, hurtful or abusive towards the OP, but nothing in her posts suggests that they are.

brass · 10/10/2012 19:41

panicking you seem to be ranting about some other bee in your bonnet. Have you read the post at all?

They are unkind, unsupportive, make no effort at all to have a relationship with their daughter. She does all the contact and even then they are cruel to her.

If you were being physically and emotionally abused by a man do you think you should be able to turn to your parents for help? Or do you think tough shit?

PanickingIdiot · 10/10/2012 19:46

Brass, what if you don't have a parent to turn to? Or if they have far bigger problems than yours?

It's nice to be able to turn to them for help, undeniably. But it's a privilege, not a right. I would feel for the OP if her parents were truly cruel to her. But she's talking about money and complaining about how much more her sister is getting, and it dampens my sympathetic feelings considerably.

brass · 10/10/2012 20:09

panicking sorry but you're talking shit in relation to this post.

BerthaTheBogBurglar · 10/10/2012 20:11

Actually, I wouldn't regard having your parents give you emotional support when your husband was physically abusing you as a "privilege". I wouldn't call it a "right" either, I'd call it "normal". I'd call it "love".

OP, ignore P-Idiot, she isn't replying to what you posted.

BerthaTheBogBurglar · 10/10/2012 20:15

Yes, having a baby yourself does bring things to a head. Or it might just be that you got to this stage anyway.

It is ok to grieve for the parents you never had, the parents you should have had.

It is ok to get angry at them for not loving you as they should. Pretending they are sat on your sofa, and having a good rant at 'them' helps a lot!

My emotions were a complete mess for about a year after I first realised that my parents were wrong to treat me as they did, and that it wasn't my fault. Counselling helps.

As for contact with them - what do you get out of your relationship with them? What will you lose if you stop seeing them?

What do you think will happen if you stop phoning and visiting? That might be your first step. Just quietly stop, and see what happens.

thebitchdoctor · 10/10/2012 20:17

Panicking being a parent means you support your children till the day you die no matter how old or ugly anyone gets. That's how I was brought up and how I will be with my little girl. Whether she likes it or not I will ALWAYS be there for her and she can always expect my support. I think parents who refuse to support their children for whatever reason are utter bellends.

BerthaTheBogBurglar · 10/10/2012 20:19

Oh, another thing. Do you want your parents to have a relationship with any children you might have? Do you think that would be good for your children? Because if not, now is the time to cut contact. That could save you an awful lot of hassle.

MissWing · 10/10/2012 21:22

Poor you. Agree with Nanny0gg and ScaryBOOAlot. good luck

pigletmania · 10/10/2012 22:19

I feel so sad for you op. they and your siter sound truely toxic. The dealbreaker for me was that they keep in contact with your ex who was abusive towards you, wTAF Shock, and blame the breakdown on that reationship on you. They don't sound like they care for you much, you can do so much better and Mabey your life might be happier without them. Mabey just don't contact tem, and write a long letter to your parents telling them what you have said here and post it, what have you got to loose, tey have to know how much they have hurt you. If they get all arsey and offended they are just not worth it.

BlueSkySinking · 10/10/2012 22:53

I think creating some distance can be healthy in your case. Could you ring them three times a year only and send Xmas/birthday cards but otherwise just get on with your own life, giving them next to no thought. Having no expectations of your parents will really help you heal. Expect nothing of them and they can't ever let you down. Decide to remove yourself from the situation

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