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Is this Priest being unreasonable

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gordyslovesheep · 26/09/2012 20:05

Really should call this thread 'why are those pesky Catholics so easily offended' but I did think it was a good antidote to the endless threads about Muslims Grin

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-19729211

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Hopeforever · 27/09/2012 17:38

Catholic Churches in the uk are growing so fast in some areas the buildings are not big enough and extra services are being held.

There is a difference between some types of yoga and I think spiritual yoga is not the same in any way as Pilates.

I think he made the right choice and the lady booking the hall was not upfront about the nature of the class from the start

gordyslovesheep · 27/09/2012 17:40

Shera04 Not at all - it was a tongue in cheeky, mildly cheeky parody of the anti 'other religions' threads you get daily

Not sure how posting a NEWS article and asking for opinions is shit stirring - but thank you - I am actually very clever Grin

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Hopeforever · 27/09/2012 17:41

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_population_growth

Serendipity30 · 27/09/2012 17:52

gordyslovesheep I'll take you word for it but you could have just posted the article with out adding'why are those pesky Catholics so easily offended' but I did think it was a good antidote to the endless threads about Muslims You needed to decide what your topic is about. Is it about the artiicle posted or the anti-muslim threads, because to me it looked like mild shit stirring Smile

Serendipity30 · 27/09/2012 17:55

In terms of the topic, it is with the priests rights as a rep of that Church to say no. They own the buildings. Like others have said if it was just yoga exercise i am sure there would be no problem. Once a spiritual element is added that is a different cup of tea altogether.

gimmecakeandcandy · 27/09/2012 20:12

Add message | Report | Message poster DontmindifIdo Thu 27-Sep-12 07:46:48
gimme the point is if you are a Christian, you believe that God does only have one religion, which while other denominations choose to practice their faith in the one god differently, people who are non-Christian are worshiping false gods and are completely wrong - and dangerous as they might tempt people away from the one true faith to worshiping something else that's a sin.

There aren't all part of the same thing at all. And most other faiths have a similar view, you are either in the club or not. You can be as pious as you like in the wrong religion, you're still in the shit come judgement day. Trick is to pick the right one.

..........

I am always amazed that people don't see the irony in this kind of belief. Religion is MAN-MADE. God does NOT have one religion just as Jesus didn't. God is about love and non-judgement. Man made him judgemental and created the 'sin' element to control the masses.

Lueji · 27/09/2012 21:09

Indeed, religion is how people relate to/ deal with god.

Even if you believe in god, religion is human-made. Actually mostly man-made indeed, which explains a lot...

LRDtheFeministDragon · 27/09/2012 21:11

Some people do believe religion is made by the holy spirit working through humans, though.

I don't think it's ironic that people who have faith disagree with atheists - it's kinda arrogant to assume your perspective is the only right one on either side of this debate!

Lueji · 27/09/2012 21:17

Maybe they could find someone to do Praise moves instead, it's "yoga' only they use bible verses instead of the usual yoga names.

Loving it.

So instead of saying ohmmmm, they will say amennnnn? :)

GrimmaTheNome · 27/09/2012 21:32

Religion is MAN-MADE.

Of course.
Some of us think that God (and gods/goddesses for Hindus etc) are man-made too.

Anyway, yes, the priest was quite within his rights to take his ball away but it seems rather petty.

And I bet there are RCs and Hindus cooperating on multifaith panels etc all being nicely tolerant and happily pretending that believing anything supernatural is superior to being a rationalist.

DontmindifIdo · 27/09/2012 21:58

Grimma - if you are an atheist - then you put faith in your belief that religion and the very notion of god/s is man made - you don't know this, you can't know it, you can just believe it.

A lot of other put their faith in the fact that it's not, and really hope they've picked the right one.

While yoga might be not seen as a 'religious thing' for most people who do it, it is - it's part of another religion.

While it might be nice for the Church to be welcoming to other religions using their buildings, it's not that surprising they don't. Particularly if they weren't approached on the understanding it would be run as a religious meeting.

And as said up thread, a lot of church halls have conditions on their use that were put on the by the person originally donating them.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 27/09/2012 22:12

'Grimma - if you are an atheist - then you put faith in your belief that religion and the very notion of god/s is man made - you don't know this, you can't know it, you can just believe it.'

Confused

Not an atheist, not grimma, but still mighty confused how you could think this is so.

GrimmaTheNome · 27/09/2012 23:30

Oh, I understand what dmiid meant I think- I'd say I'm an agnostic atheist in that you can't absolutely prove there isn't some sort of god/dess (though which one(s)?). Just think the probability of any of them exisiting and giving a stuff about whether I believe in them or not is vanishingly small.

But if you're playing Pascal's wager, the odds of picking the right sect of the right one aren't much greater than my null bet. So really, not much 'putting faith' required.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 28/09/2012 06:44

But that's because you can't prove a negative, which is just logic - it's not faith, which is a structure for accepting a positive you can't prove.

I do get what she's saying better now you've explained it though! Blush

GrimmaTheNome · 28/09/2012 07:55

LRD - after this long on MN, I understand people's faulty logic when it comes to such questions. ;-)
I've also got faith that there isn't an invisible pink unicorn who's going to be very cross with me that I've not been putting carrots out for it every night.

Sorry, we've meandered OT a bit but then I'm not sure if this thread was particularly supposed to stick to the topic on the card.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 28/09/2012 08:00

No pink unicorn?! Shock Sad

GrimmaTheNome · 28/09/2012 10:03

Sorry, I know this comes as a shock to some people. I also have faith I'm not going to be eternally flamed by a Feminist Dragon for my sins against the sisterhood. Grin The number of entities I have faith don't exist are innumerable.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 28/09/2012 10:17

I'm really sad there isn't a fire-breathing emoticon at my disposal. Since there isn't, your faith is clearly justified!

giveitago · 28/09/2012 11:59

Bit of a non story. It's the catholic church, it's catholic premises and he can do what he wants. No one has died and I'm sure the teacher will find more welcoming premises that she can rent. It's the usual catholic bigotry but that's the nature of many faiths. Why is it a story?

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