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To NOT want a public enquiry into the minister 'pleb' calling incident?

65 replies

Liketochat1 · 25/09/2012 18:07

Is it just me who doesn't want tax payer's money spent on an investigation into this incident? As far as I can understand two men got into an unpleasant exchange and the Tory minister was very rude. He has now apologized and this has been accepted.
I think David Cameron is right not to press for a public enquiry or a sacking. Why is this still front page news?

OP posts:
BelleDameSansMerci · 25/09/2012 19:22

No need for enquiry but Mitchell absolutely should resign. Typical of this Government's disdain that the PM is apparently supporting him.

trixie123 · 25/09/2012 19:25

definitely no to the ridiculous waste of time and money on an enquiry and I don't like seeing ministers resign over this sort of stuff either - far too much time is wasted getting people into posts, they learn the ropes, start being effective and then resign over some media firestorm that is completely out of proportion. It was very bad timing that it was on the day of the shooting but that doesn't actually change anything. The chief whip's job is to generally shout and bully people into line, must be hard to step put of character Smile. Of course he should apologise and he doesn't sound like an especially nice bloke but if we sack people for that well.....

chandellina · 25/09/2012 19:26

But what has he really done that is so wrong? Lost his rag for a minute over something incredibly minor? It's certainly not criminal, and who hasn't at least wanted to tell off a figure of authority over something silly some time in their lives?

Scuttlebutter · 25/09/2012 19:28

I thought his behaviour was appalling, though I agree a public enquiry is overkill. If he had a shred of decency, he would resign, and if the PM had any, he would sack him.

I think you can tell a lot about people in power by how they treat those in junior and support roles such as secretaries, cleaners, catering staff, security etc.

One of the reasons why I never regret leaving senior level post in local government was the appalling way some politicians spoke to officers. I never minded them being rude to me - I was paid shedloads of cash to suck it up, but I hated it when they would call up and give junior clerical staff a mouthful of abuse - vile.

As others have said, this is particularly horrible in the week when two brave police officers have died on duty.

mymatemax · 25/09/2012 19:30

i'd sooner they put the taxpayer money in to publice services rather than an enquiry.
the police have said they are happy to let the matter drop its only the press & the opposition stirring.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 25/09/2012 19:32

What has he done wrong?

He holds the attitude that those who are not in government or who arent as well of as him are "plebs" who should know there place.

Is that really who we want running the country? A bunch of snobs?

SauvignonBlanche · 25/09/2012 19:33

He should have been arrested under the Public Order Act the arrogant fucker, no need for an enquiry.

BurlingtonBertieFromBow · 25/09/2012 19:35

It is a public order offence

MorrisZapp · 25/09/2012 19:37

Yanbu

Just more boring fake rage whipped up by newspapers.

thebeesnees79 · 25/09/2012 19:43

I never voted for rich toff nose pricks to run the country thankfully. however it's all been blown out of proportion, can't stand the silver spoon arseholes but to be sacked because of a jobsworth policeman is a bit ott.
He should say sorry (which he has done) & be told off, end of story. Public enquiry what a joke & total waste of resources.

chandellina · 25/09/2012 19:47

Most of us in London at least hear far worse language every day. Does it mean he's a snob (so what), or just angry at being treated like a naughty child?

Politicians are human, they can't be expected to never make a tiny mistake.

NUFC69 · 25/09/2012 19:47

I am probably about the same age as the minister and I can vividly recall when I was in my 20s that we called everybody "pleb". I would have more sympathy with those of you who want him sacked if you were complaining about the swearing. I think I am right in saying that Plebians were a group of small businessmen in ancient Rome! (And I am not referring to their height).

Timeforabiscuit · 25/09/2012 19:47

It's not the act but the attitude, sneering, superior and cowardly (ref. you'll pay for this).

When I have a bad day I don't call someone a pleb for getting in my way.

So he's an objectionable person - who should make a proper apology as he's in public office, and make a size-able voluntary donation to the Police Benevolent fund.

He is a representative of government and should behave as such.

Bue · 25/09/2012 19:55

I too find it amusing that everyone is more up in arms over 'plebs' than the swearing. Many plebeians were quite rich and privileged in ancient Rome Grin

He's obviously a dolt (DH teaches at the school he went to so I can well believe the attitude!) but I hate the mob mentality that calls for the sacking of every public figure who makes a dumb mistake.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 25/09/2012 19:56

Its not about what Plebians were. Its the context in which the term was used now.

Gay is a widely used term. Usually flippantly. But when said with venom as an insult, would that be ok?

No it wouldnt.

This government has continually given off an elitist vibe. This just goes further to prove it.

chandellina · 25/09/2012 19:59

Well I for one want the smartest and most qualified people running the government, being nice isn't everything.

Timeforabiscuit · 25/09/2012 20:11

Chandelina swearing at a Policeman in a public place isn't my idea of smart Grin

Dereksmalls · 25/09/2012 20:21

who hasn't at least wanted to tell off a figure of authority over something silly at some time in their lives

Like when that figure of authority calls a policeman a pleb for trying to most effectively protect the PM (who is most probably a good mate)?

mrsscoob · 25/09/2012 21:28

What really bugs me in all this is first he calls the policeman a pleb then he denies that he said it. This show such disregard for this policeman that he would allow everyone to think he was a liar!! It's obvious he said it, there are witnesses, plus he is the only one with a reason to lie. The man is a disgrace. Don't see the need for a public inquiry though, waste of money. I think he should be sent out to do some community service instead and mix with the "plebs" for a while :)

frillyflower · 25/09/2012 22:18

'Well I for one want the smartest and most qualified people running the government, being nice isn't everything. '

ha ha! Thanks for the laugh Mr Mitchell!

ToothbrushThief · 25/09/2012 22:31

I am of the belief that this sort of incident exposes the real person. I very much doubt he is in politics 'for the people'.

I doubt he has any integrity and the lies and dodging since the incident have added to his shame

LadyBeagleEyes · 25/09/2012 22:35

He should resign or be sacked.
He is a public school, Oxbridge educated millionaire.
If anybody on this thread doesn't believe that his type exist and many of them are part of this government, you're living on another planet.
I've met people like him before in RL, and disdain doesn't cover it.

lljkk · 25/09/2012 22:37

yanbu! yanbu! yanbu!
May I say it again,.... YANBU?

Sheesh, this is not news. One guy was having a stressful day & lost his temper & apologised for it soon after (to the same man he offended). End of story. Move along folks, nothing to see here.

threeorangesocksmorganisagirl · 25/09/2012 22:38

yabu
he should be sacked, end of

OwedToAutumn · 25/09/2012 22:42

There should be an enquiry into how The Sun got a copy of the policeman's note book. Or isn't there already one - the Leveson enquiry?

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