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In thinking that Andrew Mitchell needs to resign ASAP for his behaviour?

96 replies

ColouringIn · 21/09/2012 17:08

It's in AIBU.....

Go in then....tell me how an MP who represents a Govt falling over themselves to show their appreciation of police in the wake of this weeks events can justify staying in post.

Tell me why "Call me Dave" has not kicked his arse to kingdom come and told/advised him to resign.

Or is all the talk of "appreciation" for the police after this weeks horrific murders just lip service?

"plebs" and "know your place"..... spoken like a real old right wing "stuff the proles" Tory. Arsehole of the highest order.

He needs to resign.

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NicholasTeakozy · 21/09/2012 18:50

No, he shouldn't resign. Camoron should sack him.

thebody · 21/09/2012 18:52

Yes limited it was indeed she. Very rude and loud.

NurseRatched · 21/09/2012 18:52

'Calm down dear' Cameron disciplining a Tory MP for rudeness.. er..... er....

thebody · 21/09/2012 18:56

I actually feel for the first time I don't have a party to vote for.

Tories unspeakably vile, labour, inexcusably ineffective, lib dem a fucking joke and greens nice but daft.

Seriously it's bad, Tories will get in again I think as the alternatives are even weaker.

limitedperiodonly · 22/09/2012 09:28

I'm enjoying this now. I don't think Mitchell has behaved any differently to many other politicians - least of all Dave - but his timing is spectacularly bad and shows the Conservative don't know who their friends are any more and don't give a shit about ordinary people.

The best thing I read is that Norman Tebbit said the remarks were 'extraordinarily stupid' and that Dave 'should have a heart to heart' with
Mitchell. Note that he didn't say they were wrong.

Tebbit and Margaret Thatcher always expressed utmost respect for the police which I think was probably genuine, but also because they knew how useful they were. They put their wages up and recruited more instead of reducing pay and conditions and making them redundant.

I don't blame the Police Federation for giving Mitchell a kicking. They are a trade union and I expect them to act in their members' interests.

The idea that my heart would be anywhere near Tebbit's black and stinking one would terrify me Grin.

sawseesaw · 22/09/2012 09:39

?I?m the chief whip. I?m telling you open this gate. I?m the chief whip and I?m coming through these gates. Best you learn your ing place. You don?t run this ing government. You?re **ing
plebs.?

Nice!

ColouringIn · 22/09/2012 09:46

The more and more I am reading though it's becoming apparent he is just not a nice man.....pretty hideous to everyone from what I have gathered.

Dave really needs to do more than "have a heart to heart" with him, he needs to be telling him to go and being very decisive about it. In a week when the Govt have made such comments about the bravery of the two police officers who died and their appreciation of the police service in general they need to be saying "this is utterly unacceptable" and "this man does not speak for us", then sacking him. It should have been done by now.....if he does not go for this then as far as I am concerned it shows the utter contempt the Govt really have for ordinary people.

I shall simply see them as all talk with no real belief behind their "appeciation".

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albertswearengen · 22/09/2012 09:47

Like comedy the secret to great politics is .... timing. So on that alone Mitchell should be out on his ear.

And Nick Clegg is apologising for tuition fees. He should be apolgising for propping this shower of incomptetent, heartless bastards up for the last 2 years.

thebeesnees79 · 22/09/2012 09:49

I hate the Tories with a passion trust me, however I think its been over blown. Yes he shouldn't have called him a "pleb" but I personally think its two egos banging their chests and its all a bit silly.

Meglet · 22/09/2012 09:51

yanbu.

To quote Sloe, "Every so often the mask slips and we see the contempt that Conservative party really hold for ordinary people. It's happening more and more." This.

Dahlen · 22/09/2012 09:54

YANBU. Despicable behaviour from an arrogant bully who thinks he's superior.

However, in my daily round of up of the newspapers this morning, I had to chuckle at the following 'proof of bad character' comment from one of his neighbours:

"At first we used to be friendly and exchange Christmas cards. They would always send cards with a photo of the family and their horse - just like royalty. But then one year we must have been bottom of the list because we got one from Woolworths."

Grin
limitedperiodonly · 22/09/2012 10:00

I think 'heart to heart' is Tebbit-speak for 'ripping it out and stamping on it while it's still beating.'

OhDearNigel · 22/09/2012 10:06

Every so often the mask slips and we see the contempt that Conservative party really hold for ordinary people. It's happening more and more

This is exactly what I was thinking driving to work this morning (police) as I was listening to the report that they basically said "well if teachers want more money they'll have to work harder for it lazy wotsits".

The conservatives have no respect for anyone and especially not those in the public sector who keep our essential services and infrastructure working.

Unbelievable fucking cnts.

grovel · 22/09/2012 10:11

Mitchell was educated at Rugby. So was Flashman.

Guilty.

melika · 22/09/2012 10:20

I have met the man, he came to my door when he was trying to get elected. I must say he was lovely and he does seem to do a lot in the community here. I think he must have had a really off day. And maybe the policeman was being a jobsworth. I won't excuse bad manners and temper just because of his position but I really think it was a slow news day. Lets not forget what Brown said about that woman!

thebeesnees79 · 22/09/2012 10:30

melika that was my thought exactly. the policeman was being a jobsworth. I am not Tory btw look

OhDearNigel · 22/09/2012 10:31

melika

He was trying to get you to vote for him. He was hardly going to present himself as the spawn of satan, was he ?

melika · 22/09/2012 10:38

God if we recorded all the conversations going on in the Government and dissected them we would never get anything done. I have had nastier said to me for absolutely nothing. He should apologise to the police, enough said.

raspberryroop · 22/09/2012 10:38

The Policeman is on diplomatic duty not a bloody jobsworth - he's told the rules and he therefore enforces the rules to ultimately keep that wankstain's life safe. He's not a traffic warden giving a ticket 1 second after a ticket has expired - he a man who would put his body between a bullet and this joke of man's arse. We expect our police to put themselves at risk everyday as long as they don't inconvenience us.

thebeesnees79 · 22/09/2012 10:47

an apology for sure, being sacked is extreme. Imagine if these rules were applied to the average Joe on the street

raspberryroop · 22/09/2012 10:49

What like a policeman talking like that to a politician?

Dahlen · 22/09/2012 10:53

But he's not an average Joe on the streets, is he. He's a highly privileged elected official who should be held to a higher standard.

limitedperiodonly · 22/09/2012 10:54

Police officers are perfectly capable of being jobsworths. It's the only way 'little people' have of getting revenge.

I don't know why the gate couldn't be opened. Maybe there was a security reason for it or maybe Mitchell just gets on their tits.

I do find it odd that The Sun appeared to have such a full version of events so soon after this happened and that an incident of rudeness which probably happens to officers every day was carefully written up in two officers' notebooks.

raspberryroop · 22/09/2012 11:07

Maybe they wrote it down word for word because he said Know your place as in I will get you in the shit ??? Perhaps they Sun ended up with a copy because it doesn't happen every day - these are not your average Bobby's dealing with shoplifters in Asda.
And I cant even being with you 'little people' getting revenge - they are on diplomatic duty, would have been vetted and surprisingly to you toffs some people in uniform take pride in doing their job and would be proud to serve their country if not their class bound up their own arses goverment

limitedperiodonly · 22/09/2012 11:21

Whoa raspberryroop. Lot of assumptions there.

Firstly, when you saw 'little people' written with quotation marks that should have been a clue that I don't regard police officers or anyone else doing a job as a person of no consequence.

Secondly, I'm not a toff. Far from it.

Thirdly I know how The Sun get hold of stories and so do many other people. This is a good Sun story particularly since it happened just one day after those two officers were killed in Manchester and the Government were banging on about respect for the police.

Mitchell probably gets on their tits. He seems the sort.