To be scared of getting a job in case I'm worse off?

[BenefitScrounger]

NC and prepared for a flaming.

I've been claiming JSA for over two years now and am on the Work Programme. I have no qualifications and all I could get (I think) is a minimum wage job. I have been lying about my attempts to get work because I think I am better off out of work.

At the moment I get full housing benefit plus council tax, free dental care/prescriptions (if I need them) and £71 a week to live on. My bills aren't covered obviously, but they're not huge, and I have lots of free time to indulge hobbies etc.. I don't feel the need to buy stuff very often as I'm not into fashion/beauty and I eat cheaply. I can afford to eat out once a week with a TasteCard. The only thing I miss is holidays abroad but I'm not sure I would be able to afford them if I got a job anyway.

If I got a full time minimum wage job, would I be worse off? Just thinking of travel expenses, student loan repayment and time lost - not sure if I would still get any council tax benefit?

Has anyone had experience of this? By the way, I'm childless and live alone.

There are plenty of jobs' that "make a difference" that don't need qualifications and are not NMW. I have one.

I am a Phlebotomist work in the NHS. You get trained from nowt and don't even need a CSE. I am working with people with cancer atm,and I know I have made their time in hospital a bit easier with my chatty attitude,dry humour and by rubbing their backs and sit in silence with them when they are vomitting from their chemo. And it is waaaaay above NMW.

You know what i started out trying to help but the "wah wah i need time to myself" crap has pissed me right off. What a twat!

I love labradoodles. They look like sheep!

By then op no one will want you. You'll be screwed, starving and homeless.

Crazy, are they still taking people on? Do you get anything whilst training?

By when fuckadoodle?

But what about your time to yourself? What about your art? What about your funny days?

Don't tell me you're suddenly cured because the money is good!

You train on the job. You are already employed when training. It doesn't take long to train someone to stick a needle in a vein.

I found mine on here

When you're your benefits are stopped, you'll find it very hard to get a job - not least because you'll lose your flat and without an address few employers will touch you.

However long it takes op. The longer you choose not to work the harder it will be to get even a bar job.

Aren't you going to be a bit stuck when they change the rules so that a single adult only gets HB for a room in a houseshare, rather than a flat?

(Are they still planning to do that?)

Have not read whole thread .But you are prob better off not working.I am a neonatal nurse.I live in Lincolnshire and work in London I want to get my Band 6.I have two children.Have to pay to live in London in week and also massive train fares.Have to do minimum 3 agency shifts a month for food etc(hospital bank not big agencies as unless in London full time cannot do last minute work)
Looking to the future and hoping I will have choice(am 43!)
sO BASED ON YOUR op YOU PROB BETTER OFF NOT WORKING OR DOING MIN WAGE.

If you look on Entitled to you can prob see how much better or worse off you would be.But you need to look to future also.

BENEFIT CAP

From April 2013

Better get jobseeking OP

as a qualified mental health nurse with many years of experience your mental health issues dont add up people dont tend to go mad once a month or so. And anxiety does nt come and go in an acute phase its constant and in chronic phase its still underlying but can be managed with medication [ i suffer with it but have been treated with antdepressants and can still work full time] really pisses me off when people throw in the mental health card beleive me il;lnesses like schizophrenia are not something i would wish on anyone prhaps you should do some voluntry work on an acute mental health unit and see what people with genuine mental illness go through i,m warning you its not pleasent and can be very distressing

Well, that's probably not going to affect her Katie, if my calculations are right her HB and JSA together come to about £300 a week, and the cap is at £350.

So the doctor refused you a supporting letter for DLA, but in fact you hadn't applied because you didn't know how to - or even what DLA is.

And you get Housing Benefit but have never seen a HB form, with info about deductions against income, since you think that people in work don't get HB.

And you are worried about student loan deductions from a NMW job.

"wondered if someone is currently in the same postition"
^ This the only line in your entire posting that's true, isn't it?

Still, if you're as crap at your day job as you are at this, don't worry, you'll be getting a crash course in benefits shortly.

You seem to be finding a lot of reasons to not get a job, regardless of what people on this thread are telling you.

I'm getting the feeling that you were hoping everyone was going to say "Of course you'll be worse off! How silly of you to even think of looking for a job! Poor you, OP!"

Interesting thread

BenefitScrounger This is my life:
I work 40+ hours a week in a job I hate to pay my mortgage
I have been a single parent for 10 years
I am the primary carer for my mother who has Alzheimers
My DD takes Prozac for depression
I have also suffered from 3 major bouts of depression
And my NIC/Income Tax supports you with your pavement art/Rape Crisis ambitions
Get over yourself!!!

Agree x2boys.

My brother is partially right: there are a lot of shitty jobs out there and, yes, the world can be a bit shit.

It's not the full story though. No matter how shit a job is, you can still make something out of it, learn things, make friends, get out of the house, improve your skills, pay for things honestly instead of sponging off others.

Because ultimately, that's what you are doing, OP: you are living off charity at the moment since you've never paid taxes. What happens if/when the government changes the system and takes away your benefits or reduces them? I would hate to be reliant on the whims of the system like that. At least when you work and have employable skills you have the power to earn money or find work so you have real freedom, not freedom that's reliant on others' charity.

So that's why you should get a job, OP, because maybe the world isn't quite as shit as you think it is and you never know what you could learn instead of hanging on to your safe perch afraid of the world.

Your attitude is disgraceful and I've never known anything like it.

Why should you work? Because what you do currently is of little benefit to society.

You volunteer because it suits YOUR purposes. Not because it helps others. There are plenty of non-minimum wage jobs that serve the community that need no qualification (when I was a care assistant it wasn't NMW and I did that with no experience) and yet you don't want to do that because 'sometimes you go weird'.

Well guess what. That's being a grown up. We all have days when we'd rather not go to work. I have anxiety and depression (I will always have this but I manage it) and am a recent rape survivor. Following my rape I got up the next day, and the next, and went to work and told not a soul at work because I HAD to. I often do a day knackered because I've had no sleep (nightmares) but that is my problem not theirs. Do I expect people to pay for me? No. But you seem to expect others to pay for you because you don't like the idea of working.

If everyone chose your way of life there would not be the resources for anyone. Benefits are to help those who aren't able to afford things for themselves because they are unable to work, not because they are unwilling.

Not only is what she does of little benefit to society, its a burden.

Respect, Clown