To ask you all to sign the "No More Page 3" petition?

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It's a bit of a no-brainer really. How are we ever supposed to show our kids that women are more than just sex objects when Page 3 exists? It's archaic and totally unnecessary. It's also an anachronism and offensive. Please sign if you believe that pictures of topless girls don't belong in a so-called family newspaper.

More info here and a facebook page here

Fantastically, the petition has gone from 2,000 signatures yesterday morning to over 16,000 today!

Bit it is normal to appreciate the opposite sex. I remember as a young teen growing up me and my mates used to oggle the mens pants in my mums catalogue, same as my brother and his friends used to look at the bras. None of us have turned into sexual predators groping innocent people.... we are sane people who know the difference between reality and fantasy.

Nothing wrong with normality.......as usual the minority always fuck stuff up for the majority.

Zoo and Nuts are not on the same shelves at all! The Sun is on the main news stands! That is the problem! A newspaper is read in public, on trains/buses, in work places, all over the place! Of course women and and children see it whether they want to or not! And it's not just about 'my children'! What about the kids whose parents get the Sun everyday! Do you think it's hidden from them?! (I grew up in a house that had the Sun delivered. My parents didn't keep them under the wardrobe!) I have nothing against tits but they have no place in a newspaper.

'Appreciating the opposite sex' is one thing: objectifying them into nothing more than a pair of tits is another! Why is it 'normal' that women are treated like this and men aren't?

The boobs in a paper normalise wanking on trains and groping women?

If you are going to do that I don't think a newspaper picture been banned is going to stop you doing it.

It's one photo! Have you seen what can be found on the internet?!

So will you be doing a petition to get heat to ban their torso of the week then? Because that may cause woman to grope men and fiddle on a train

I can see this heading into 'you're a prude' territory - I'm not. Nor do I have body issues. It is the outrageous sexism I object to, and the message it gives out about women.

Appreciating the opposite sex' is one thing: objectifying them into nothing more than a pair of tits is another! Why is it 'normal' that women are treated like this and men aren't

Another good reason to petition to bring back the page 7 hunk then!!

Why is it 'normal' that women are treated like this and men aren't?

Have you not seen any magazines lately? Half naked men in most of them.

SPs - have you even looked at the petition page? It's not about 'banning'! The petition asks Mohan to stop it - very different.

Torso of the week doesn't compare because men are not treated in this way by society as a whole. Men are shown in the tabloid press as active participants in society; women are shown on the sidelines looking nice for the benefit of men.

In all fairness there are make equivalents. I made this point in the other thread but I think it may have been ignored.

Sigh, let's not all start again! Read the other thread peeps!

I do agree with your 2nd point Goldship - read the other thread peeps. But of course they won't.

so is there going to be a petition to ban magazines like heat, they have topless pics of men in them....

If this gets banned do we also need a petition against that grim 'Torso of the Week' shot in Heat (or whatever?)

And is it so different from all the very-slightly-cringy perving over 'only just legal' Tom Daly during the Olympics?

As I have already said sigh if you actually look at the petition it is not about 'banning' anything...

Torso of the week doesn't compare because men are not treated in this way by society as a whole

Have you ever been to a ladies night?? I went to one years ago and I tell you, the women were scary....worse than men!! They were grabbing him, smacking his arse and all sorts. Obviously he was butt naked covered in baby oil so he knew what he was letting himself in for but yes, this just proves than women can be just as bad as men if they are that way inclined rightly or wrongly. Dont make objectification a feminist issue, its a humanist issue really!

FWIW I find Page 3 a fraction as offensive as the crotch-shots in FHM et. al.

The little blob saying things like "Elsa, 22, from Basildon, says "Dylan Thomas wrote 'Do not go gentle into that good night', something we can all bear in mind as the Paralympics come to an end.' etc. etc.

You just need to read some threads on MN where many women talk about the men they lust after and what they'd like to do them, with links
Are we all demeaning men on these threads

did you not see the thread about Oscar on here....

FFS! It isn't the same talking about pics of men! For a start women have breasts, that are sexual body parts (yes I know they are used for BFing but the Sun don't show women nursing do they?!) whereas men don't have them. A man's torso is not the same - if it were then why aren't women walking around topless like men do in summer? But more to the point, men do not have to prove themselves professionally in the way women do. They aren't already on a back foot, and don't suffer from sexual violence in the way women do. Men's chests in mags does not compare. Plus, we're not talking about mags, we're talking about a NEWSPAPER!

And I haven't even started on News in Briefs... cos yes, we women are all thickies who can't possibly have an intellectual opinion on anything. chortle.

the sun, a newspaper?
doesn't the star also have a topless page?

ARf at the idea that we don't objectify men. See the pictures of Beckham in his tightie wighties. See the Tom Daly perving. See the Cumberbitches.

One thread had people linking to the time on the iPlayer that Benedict Cumberbatch was Doing Teh Secks. The hilarity that ensued when they realised they were watching a painstaking adaptation of a modernist classic was quite funny

OBVIOUSLY it's worse where women are concerned by pointless saying it's not increasingly the case for men too.

You are going way off track now!

The Star is terrible but doesn't have the massive circ of the Sun.

Me? Sorry

No not you, Em .......I am agreeing with you Jodie :)