Help, DH left food out all night and saying its safe

[catfart]

Sorry posted this twice as I need a quick answer and it does fit in AIBU.

I am so angry this morrning, I slow cooked a beautiful whole shoulder of lamb yesterday, last night it came out of the oven at 8pm. I was planning on using it to batch freeze meals like shepards pies for my little boy and after the pregnancy. I was shattered (pregnant) and asked husband to put it in the fridge to cool after an hour so I could make the meals to go in the freezer today.

I come down this morning and to find its been left out all night, I put it in the fridge at 7am.

Can we eat this now? Can I use it for my freezer meals...

My husband thinks I am being ridiculous as I say that there is potential now that it could be unsafe, he says that all bugs are dead in it because I cooked it so long!!! I think slowly cooling like that and staying at room temperature is very bad.

Anyway, am I being OTT? We haven't got money to burn, this is a £22 shoulder that was to make a huge batch of lovely shepards pies for us and my son when the baby arrives and also ragu for pasta....I just feel gutted. Why didn't he do as I say?????????????

Actually I would go against what everyone has suggested and say don't do it if you are pregnant and planning on feeding to a 2 year old.

I have worked in the food industry. If you had a warm kitchen all night, there are all sorts of nasties now bred on that meat. I am sorry, it is a huge waste. I would never reuse stew/meat etc that has been left overnight. I have quite strict kitchen rules!

Me and my family have never had food poisoning from my cooking. The last time I had it was from a well known restaurant in South London.

Just to be sure I would probably eat the whole thing myself. And blame that on pregnancy.

I would eat it. It will be absolutely fine. I have often heated, refrozen and then reheated food before many times. Have only ever had food poisoning twice in my life. Once from a prawn curry ready meal and once from KFC. Of course if you live in a perpetual state of worry over germs and sterilise everything in sight, your natural immunity will be lower. It is more important to keep things covered so that flies don't get near them. Leaving something out overnight will not poison you.

Right, to some this may be overcautious but I've portioned it up in the freezer and labelled it for my husband only to have, lucky sod, it looks lovely. It could be ok but I wouldn't forgive myself if my little boy got ill, the heating was on late last night and the kitchen was warm still this morning. Not going to chance it myself being 6 months pregnant and don't fancy being ill with a newborn either.....

It would have been too warm to put in the fridge anyway and last night was cool, so unless it was right by a radiator that was on all night, it will be fine!

So now he needs to replace it.
What can he give up to raise the cash?

Not cautious at all, very sensible imo. £20 isn't worth putting you or your Ds at risk of being very poorly.

Catfart, my apologies if this has been said already or if I have misunderstood you but you mustn't put warm food in the fridge to cool. That way lies food poisoning. Plus a broken fridge.

I made a months worth of meals before I gave birth. It was such a good idea.

Good luck with the birth. Congratulations. Enjoy

Mmmmmmmm. I use mince for shepherds pie how nice yours must be.

I would just go at that lamb shoulder like Henry vii and give myself gout. Sounds lush!

I wouldnt. Sorry Dr google says not to.

I would and we do, pretty much all of the time. As has been said already it would not have been cool enough to go in the fridge unless you had already carved it up and put it into cold boxes.
When we cook like this, I tend to put the DTs portion into a new dish so it does cool down more quickly and goes into the fridge before we go to bed. None of us had anything remotely approaching food poisoning like either.

It's the shredding of the meat that would make me more wary. A big chunk of meat ok but shredded meat , hmmmmm. Not for a pg mum and wee one. Bad luck OP.

I'm confused about all these "it would not have been cool enough to go in the fridge yet ' comments.

The advice here in australia is to get hot foods into the fridge asap.
Apparantly the neeed to cool it first is a myth, (although it is best to divide deep pots of food into smaller portions, to allow the fridge to get the food temp into the safe zone quickly)...

I used to be scared of eating food that had been left out, until other half re-educated me. Chilli/Curry/Stew (possibly made with mince) cooked on say a Sunday night stays in a pot on the stove, being reheated twice a day, until Tuesday night, with no ill-effects. (Cook fresh rice each time.)

Temperature in the kitchen in winter probably 15-22 celsius depending on the time of day/night.

Having said that, maybe other factors matter. Maybe background bacteria are different from place to place, or we are are immune. Or maybe bacteria just don't like our cooking.

You need to get food cool asap and then into the fridge madonna NEVER hot food into the fridge.

Why no shredded meat for a pregnant mum May?

I'm still confused! What happens if you put hot food in the fridge??

Putting hot food in the fridge causes the temperature to rise and therefore not safe for other foods in there. Also buggers up your fridge as it works too hard.

OP, great idea to batch cook. But don't beat yourself up if dh feeds ds fish fingers and chips or beans on toast when you're in hospital and even when you come out. Quick meals are the way forward!

Sorry, x posted there!

Eat it.
Stuff like that always gets stuck overnight in a cool place here as our fridge is always full

When your whole family is up puking all night you'd pay £20 to be better. I'd throw it away, irritating boys!

ask him to eat some and see if he is ill?

I am bemused by solosource

and your user name, is such a random business term from my work!

be nice .....be nice....