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Neighbours, driveways and stupid police.

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montysma1 · 09/09/2012 21:01

My driveway entrance is double width, leading into my largely monoblocked driveway, which extends to the full width of my house. The entrance and the driveway are accessed over the pavement which has a lowered kerb.

I am plagued by cars doing 3 point turns, either mounting the pavement (best case ) or more commonly, crossing the pavement and driving squarely right into my monoblocked garden as part of their turn. Its annoying when randopm cars do it.

More annoyingly, a woman who comes daily to a house 3 down from ours (I think she might be the granny and might be child caring), uses our driveways habitually for all her turns, and I mean, all 4 wheels in my garden, (head lights beaming into our living room if its dark). Tonight i actually had to sit in the road way waiting for her to reverse out ouf my drive before I could get in to park on it! She actaully drices right past the driveway of the house she is going into (as it is narrow), manouvers in my garden and drives back down the street to park at the house she is going into!

Phoned the police tonight who say this is neither a criminal or civil offence. They are sending a community officer tomorrow to assuage my ranting, although, I did point out thats its not me who is doing it, so why not visit her?

AIBU to phone thenm back and point out that they are talking crap and that the law seems to state "that it is an offence to drive a vehicle over a pavement unless to gain access to private property" As she is not gaining access to my property, nor has she permission to , then surely it is an offence to mount the pavemnt at my house let alone drive right over it onto my property.

My children play in the garden, and know nopt to even so much as oput a toe out onto the pavement. but they cant even be safe in their own garden as according to the police, its perfectly fine for random cars to swing in at speed, reverse and leave again. they said i should phone back if a car hits one of them!

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MrsTerrysChocolateOrange · 09/09/2012 22:26

Have you tried No Turning sign?

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WelshMaenad · 09/09/2012 22:27

Get a couple of akitas? You could train them to bite tyres.

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Sallyingforth · 09/09/2012 22:29

One removeable post stuck in a hole in the middle of the drive. That's not too difficult is it?

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FelicitywasSarca · 09/09/2012 22:32

Get some kids play cones. Block your drive off with them.

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Spuddybean · 09/09/2012 22:35

I always find parking threads mind boggling and informative in equal measure. It would never occur to me not to turn using someones drive. We get lost all the time and have to turn using drives. I can't see why it would annoy anyone. I think i would have laughed if i was the policeman. Sorry, but maybe i'm missing why it is a problem. Surely it is just a square of concrete being used for seconds by someone who needs to turn round easily - why would you be so uncharitable to allow them not to? They aren't leaving there car there or anything.

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AndSuetoo · 09/09/2012 22:38

Op I'm genuinely intrigued to know what you actually think the police could do about your minor dispute with a neighbour's relative. Did you envision an arrest? A prosecution?

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BreconBeBuggered · 09/09/2012 22:43

It's annoying, but I bet the police won't have any better advice than you've received on this thread. I had a similar problem years ago, and put a chain across the drive in the end. It wasn't so much the turning as the teenage boy racers who thought my driveway was a better place to sit and play their crappy bassy tunes all evening than the pavement outside their own house. Wasn't much I could do about them, so I don't fancy your chances.

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ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 09/09/2012 22:45

This would piss me off severely. I'd go for the gates/chains/bollards option. And then hope she didn't notice and pranged her car.

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CinnamonSal · 09/09/2012 22:45

Seriously? As if the police dont have better things to do. Get. A. Grip

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montysma1 · 09/09/2012 22:59

I did not call the emergency services, I contacted the community police officer, upon the recommendation of the council.

If it was just nosing onto the driveway, it would just be a little bit annoying.

However its, not just the nominal "driveway" portion she is on, ie, the bit that would have been accessed from the original gate going up the left side of the house. Oh no, to make her turn easier, she swings right across the entire garden ,past the front door, past the living room window, stopping with her bonnet beside the hedge bordering us and next door on the far right on the house. Its only possible as the whole thing is paved, which is how we got the place.

However, apparently I am selfish for not offering my garden for use by lost motorists like spuddy bean.

Gates would be a no go, too expensive and difficult to open as ground rises and they would need to be two gates of about 7 ft each.

"one removable post" does not close off gateway as it is too wide.

I will try a chain though. And maybe a No turning sign. Although if she ignores the parking of cars across the drive by way of a hint, or me glowering in her windscreen with "what the hell?" hands, I'm sure she can ignore a sign too.

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BellaOfTheBalls · 09/09/2012 23:00

No a fence wouldn't sag or jam at that length if made and fitted correctly. My DM has a large driveway and has had a gate installed & it's fine, but not exactly cheap. Theirs has the sole purpose of keeping in their overpriced escape artist Labrador puppy in however...

YANBU to want people not to do this; it would drive me mad. But YABU to sit back and watch while people do it and expect them to change their behaviour or for the police to deal with it. It's not quite blue lights and handcuffs-worthy.

Get a gate, a chain or a bollard. Granted its probably an unwanted expense but if it's going to stop angering/upsetting you and keep your children safe surely it is a small price to pay.

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BellaOfTheBalls · 09/09/2012 23:01

Sorry! X-post!

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Bossybritches22 · 09/09/2012 23:09

Maybe ask the PCSO for some traffic cones? Put one or two over your driveway.

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AndSuetoo · 09/09/2012 23:12

What did you think the council were going to do?!

There isn't one police service for emergencies and another for non-emergencies. I think your claim not to have called the emergency services is a little inaccurate.

This is one of those occasions in life when you will have to do something to help yourself.

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BonzoDooDah · 09/09/2012 23:23

What a cheeky cow!

I can't believe people on here think it is okay for her to repeatedly drive into your garden and practically turn round in it. Really? Op IBU??

Is there anything you could put in the middle of where she does this manouver that would be tricky to spot when reversing (except your own children of course) but might "accidentally" damage her car if she drove into/onto it?
If she does this every day then you wouldn't have to wait long for the message to get across to her.

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DottyWottyDooDah · 09/09/2012 23:27

YANBU to be annoyed. I am annoyed by similar.

But

YABU not to speak with your neighbour before calling the council and police and simply ASKING her not to do it as you find it intrusive and annoying.

Don't get gates, bollards and signs until you've pointed out to her that this upsets you and you'd rather she didn't do it.

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BabylonPI · 09/09/2012 23:29

My parents have an in/out horseshoe drive - they too get really pissed off when cheeky drivers drive in one side, right across the front of the house and out the other side!

It's actually just rude, and taxi drivers are the worst!

Proved only by the fact that one taxi driver from a local firm wrote his car off on dad's new wrought iron gates Wink

They'd been fitted less than a week. DM & DF were due to start looking after my then 2yo dd and needed to know she could play safely in the garden. Dad has always liked wrought iron stuff, so bought two pairs of old school gates from a reclaims yard (£50).

They are bloody heavy, set into huge concrete footings and secured to a brick wall.

This taxi driver apparently used their driveway regularly to turn around (mostly in the daytime) and the last time he used it, he swung into the drive off the 40mph road that no one ever does 40 on and as there is barely a car length of driveway before the gates, he had no time to stop and concertina'd the front end of his fairly new ford mondeo!

Christ on a bike it made a big bang! He wasn't hurt unless you count his pride
And he knew he hadn't got a leg to stand on legally, it was his fault.

Except because it happened on private property his insurance company didn't want to pay up. He actually had the cheek to ask DM if it would be covered by the house insurance Angry

Don't know if his insurance ever paid up, never seen hide nor hair of him since DM told him to jog on!!!

So op, YANBU to be annoyed, but there's bugger all police or PCSO can do, so I think YABU to have called them.

As others have said, chain, kids cones , stinger etc etc or just a couple of lengths of 4x2 ply with rows of nails in placed strategically across your drive Wink

I'm almost certain you couldn't be charged with criminal damage if she burst her tyres whilst ON your drive uninvited/unwanted??!

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BonzoDooDah · 09/09/2012 23:29

True DottyWotty - speaking to her personally first would be best.
And as whoever mentioned it earlier said - why didn't you block her into your drive while you "had a chat"?

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BabylonPI · 09/09/2012 23:33

AndSueToo isn't there a new police number now for reporting non emergencies Confused

So not 999, isn't it 101 or something?

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edam · 09/09/2012 23:34

bonzo - people think she is BU because she called the police.

OP, the woman does sound like she's taking the piss, but you haven't done anything about it yourself. Loads of suggestions here, why not try one of them?

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Loshad · 09/09/2012 23:35

i can't understand why you are getting so wound up about it, presumably she is turned round in a few seconds.
We live on a country lane and folk often use the end of our drive to turn round, it's the only sensible place to do so. They don't damage the drive by turning on it, why would i mind?
occasionally i have to wait to turn in while someone uses my drive to turn around to find where ever they are off to. I can just about manage to spare the extra 5 seconds this takes Hmm YABU
YABU as well to monblock the entire front of your very wide house, leading to an increase in local flooding

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BonzoDooDah · 09/09/2012 23:35
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montysma1 · 09/09/2012 23:55

As i stated, I did not call the emergency numbers.

As i tried to hint, without actually calling them , "the local nutters" not the best to tackle. So to be clear, "they are the local nutters"

She doesnt turn round in few seconds, it takes her a minute or two back and forwards, trying to avoid hitting OUR car in the drive. It is most annoying to have you dog set off barking , to have full beams into your living room, off again, oh another adjustment, full beams again, and to have somebdy roll past inches from your window. She does it numerous times a day, its not one off, its her habit.

As I stated I did not monoblock the garden, it was like that when we got it.

They are not just turning on my drive, they are traversing the length and breadth of the garden

However, Perhaps all you deeply tolerant people who dont see the problem could forward your address and I can come and give your gardens a whirl. Maybe stop for a picnic too?

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TuftyFinch · 10/09/2012 00:10

I don't understand the relevance of the monoblock. I also don't know what monoblock is. It sounds like your driveway consists of one block? Is that it? I would find it very troubling if someone turned their vehicle on my one block. Could you call the AA for advice? They were great about advising me about a problem I had with my Volvo. Somebody was sleeping in it.

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redwhiteandblueeyedsusan · 10/09/2012 00:23

it would drive me crackers...

they are sending a pcso round. point out that the driver is endangering your children and ask nicely if he will have a word. ask what else they recommend you do that you can afford...

do you have anythig you could leave in the drive that you would not be distressed about if it was driven over... (but would make a horrible clanking banging scraping of under carriage if driven over?)

making a rockery? painting your fence with the remains of that hideous paint the previous owner left in the loft in 1972? mending your fence with a lovely box of nails? putting the recycling out in carrier bags on the way to the supermarket....

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