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I think that this bloke is trying to rip my mum off. Am about to go raggo.

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BupcakesandCunting · 04/09/2012 13:54

My mum has a caravan on a caravan site which she is selling. The site owners have put the ground rent up from £1000 to £2900 in the last three years and since her partner passed away, my mum can't afford to pay the ground rent any longer.

She approached the site owner about selling it and he told her that he would offer her £2150 for the van if she sold it to him. He then said he would sell it on for about £4600. He said if she chose to sell it privately, he would want 15% commission of whatever she sold it for. Fair enough. This weekend, a family have offered my mum £2500 for the van. They seem really nice and genuineand they have wanted a van on this site for years so mum has agreed a sale with them.

She went to tell the site owner that she has sold up for £2500 and to ask what she must do next. The site owner then said that actually he wants 15% of the price he THINKS he can get for it (£4600) if he was going to sell it. WTF?! This can't be right as it is just speculative, surely? We also called the caravan sales place that mum bought it from in the first place to get a value and the sales guy there said she'd be lucky to get £2000 for it, so this sum of £4600 is just wishful thinking on the owner's part, surely?

Basically, the sale has to go through the office books so he can take whatever cut he wants and give my mum what's left but I think this is wrong and legally very shaky. My mum is a bit of a pushover so she has asked if I will speak to him (the owner) but I feel like I might lose my rag with him. Does anyone know whether he is right?

TIA :)

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HipHopOpotomus · 04/09/2012 16:51

Tell him to fuck off.

I can't see why he is entitled to anything but if you feel he is offer 15% of the sale price or nothing. Get his agreement in writing before paying him as he sounds untrustworthy.

BupcakesandCunting · 04/09/2012 17:05

I too fail to see why he gets anything from the sale since the greedy troll makes £3000 a year from each caravan owner THEN the cheeky fucker charges the same again for new people coming on to the site for "connection fee". Even if the caravans are already connected to the water/electrics etc. However, apparently it is common practice that site owners get a commission from the re-sales.

They are money grabbing toads they are.

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jojane · 04/09/2012 17:32

Whereabouts in Monmouthshire? I live there so if it would help I could go and pretend to be a prospective customer, ask some digging questions about what would happen if I dicided to sell in the future etc(maybe record it but not sure about legalities of that!!) to see what he tells people?

BupcakesandCunting · 04/09/2012 17:34

JoJane I have thought about doing that myself (putting on an Irish accent, for it is the only accent I can do!) and asking some questions. I will PM you!

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TheCraicDealer · 04/09/2012 18:04

Fuck, I love when this happens. It's like Penguin-Date all over again. Mumsnet Private Investigating.

oopslateagain · 04/09/2012 18:10

It's standard for the site owner to get a 'cut' from a private sale, as they have to do paperwork to change the lease of the site and have to spend time sorting out the details of the new owners - 10-15% is about standard. But that's of the SELLING price, not some 'prospective value' price.

Phone the owner, say you are acting on behalf of your mum (no need to tell him you are related), and say that the agreement is for 15% of the sale value of the caravan. If he argues that it is 15% of £4000 or whatever, tell him that the National Caravan Council states that the industry maximum is 15% of the actual sale value of the home, and that is exactly what your mum is offering. (it's actually 15% plus VAT but he's unlikely to know that if he's spouting rubbish about prospective values).

If he then argues that he wants the 15% of the prospective value, ask him to forward a copy of the signed leasing agreement with the appropriate section highlighted.

Good luck - and don't go raggo! Wink

suburbandweller · 05/09/2012 09:38

Your mum must have some kind of paperwork - how will she prove she owns the caravan otherwise? She's going to struggle to sell it if she can't find any papers! It's the first thing a solicitor will ask for (I'm a solicitor and I certainly would) so do keep on at her to dig around.

savoycabbage · 05/09/2012 09:49

One of you should dress up as a solicitor and the other a customer.

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