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to think that Lucretia Stewart is a wanker?

10 replies

icecold · 28/08/2012 01:48

was at my mums at the weekend-picked up her DM....WTF?

surely all this woman can actually say, is that one of her rapes was worse than the others?

The horror of her home being invaded by a stranger, and all the creepy pstcho candle lighting stuff was absent in her subsequent rapes; but it doesnt make the rape any better.....

has this been done already?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193575/LUCRETIA-STEWART-Author-tells-thinks-rapes-ARE-worse-others.html

my favourite bit;
And, while I do not believe that any woman should be forced to have sex with a man if she doesn?t want to, I do think that it is important that we realise that sometimes in life unpleasant or unwelcome things happen, and we don?t want to blow them out of all proportion

Men need to understand that they have to control their desires, to show respect and consideration and that violence is always unacceptable. Women need to understand that sometimes messy situations occur. And children are always out of bounds

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icecold · 28/08/2012 01:49

AND why? WHY as a rape victim would you want to publish an article belittling someone elses rape expereince?

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MrsTerryPratchett · 28/08/2012 01:56

I wont clink the DM. The only explanation I can think of is that she is still very scarred by what has happened to her and is trying to process it. I have worked with child sex abuse survivors and they will blame themselves and minimise. It doesn't mean what they went through isn't dreadful, just that they are dealing with it in bite-sized chunks.

icecold · 28/08/2012 02:00

but other people are trying to process their experiences of their rapes...the last thing that is needed is an article telling them, that their experience isnt 'that bad', dont 'blow it out of proportion'; its not like you are a virgin......ffs

yes, maybe she is processing; dont the DM have some responsibility then? to not publish articles, mnimising rape???

Angry
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sawseesaw · 28/08/2012 02:07

Ok, so children are out of bounds - does she really need to write that? Does that mean that non-consenting females are?
I think she is trying to minimise and normalized. Printing this is really irresponsible. Then it is the DM.

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/08/2012 02:22

I really do think it was the DM, rather than her, at fault here. People say all sorts of things and in this case (I assume, I didn't read it) rape is something she has gone through more than once. She must be dealing with all sorts of horrible thoughts and emotions. The editors at the DM, on the other hand are just doing their usual woman-hating crap.

sawseesaw · 28/08/2012 07:36

Aren't

picnicbasketcase · 28/08/2012 07:39

I don't like the thought that people could read that and perpetuate the idea that 'some rapes are worse than others; it must be true because a woman who was raped said so.'

icecold · 28/08/2012 10:06

exactly picnic

it took me 20 years to tell anyone that I was raped. 20 years

it has affected ever aspect of my life

All that time i was in denial, because I doubted it was 'real' rape/ there was minimal violence/ I knew my rapist/ we had had sex before/ i 'let him'

that stupid article very well may discourage women from believing they arent to blame/ speaking out

how traumatic the actual rape is depends on not only the rape/rapist, but the victim. And the after effects of the rape are usually very profound regardless of how 'bad' the rape was Hmm

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limitedperiodonly · 28/08/2012 10:21

She's always doing this. Like MrsTP, the most charitable thing I can think of is that she's trying to process a horrible experience.

Or maybe, like Samantha Brick, they ring her up and say they'll pay her to say vile things about other women and she looks at her bank balance and says ok.

Or maybe she's just nasty.

I notice that a few years ago, Jill Saward, the woman raped in the Ealing Vicarage Attack in 1986 stopped talking offensive nonsense about degrees of rape and behaving as if her personal experience and given her a unique insight into all rape and sentencing.

Maybe it will take Lucretia Stewart as long to stop responding to media prodding and start thinking for herself and other women.

muffinino82 · 28/08/2012 10:46

On balance, being raped as a virgin seems to me worse than being raped as a mature, sexually experienced woman. I know the difference between good sex and bad sex and rape is neither.

But, if you have never had sex, if this is your first experience of a naked (or, in Sebold?s case, semi-naked), aroused man, then how will you be able to tell the difference?

Shock

I haven't managed to process this idiotic statement yet, will be back later once I've recovered from the shock.

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