to be pissed off that the Paralympic opening ceremony

[OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos]

is on a Wednesday?

A Wednesday FFS!? What other major one off events are ever held in the middle of the week?

I want to go to a opening ceremony celebration party, and the one I want to go to is about an hour away from where I live. Which means that we'd like to be able to stay overnight, but can't because dh has to work the next day. He's contract so doesn't get paid if he's not at work, and as its already a bank holiday week we can't really afford for him to take two days off. Plus lots of other people that we want to be able to party with have work commitments too.

Why couldn't they have delayed it for two days so that people who wanted to could celebrate on a Friday in the same way they did for the Olympic opening ceremony?

Of course it is rude to stare three but if parents shoo them away from your daughter then they might think your daughter and her wheelchair is something to fear and 'different' to them where in fact your daughter is just a child like they are, parents need to educate their children about differences not shy away, imo, I am not talking about standing gawping at people though ,

that is a shallow excuse.
if your children are being rude you should apologise or smile and remove them. using the idea that will make inclusion less likely is crap tbh.
there are loads of ways you can teach your children with out causing discomfort to a disabled person.
how about an inclusive playgroup

I wanted to go but fell foul of the rules that wheelchair spaces are limited and companion must be over 16 ,so even though me and Ds both could of got wheelchair spaces on own rights the companion seats can not be used by my 9 0r 15 year old even though they are young carers

So I would news to buy three seats elsewhere as both under 16 they have to have adult with then

It's not an excuse Socks, it's just acknowledging that it can be hard for parents to strike the right balance between not allowing children to stare, and at the same time teaching them that there is nothing to fear and that they can talk to other children who might have a visible disability in the same way as they can talk to everyone else.

I'd have guessed (and as im not in that position i apologise profusely if im wrong) that parents of disabled children don't want other children to shy away from them or treat them as anything other than a child, but that is almost exactly what we are actively telling children to do when we tell them not to look.

I am only talking about very small children here btw, like 5 or below.

TV Coverage, 7am until 3.25 on C4 then over to More 4 from 3.25 to 5.25, back to C4 then until 6.30, back to More 4 until 7.30 and then back to C4 from 7.30 until 11.15, so all day. Also on Radio 5 live. That is for Thursday next week, Friday is the same.

fivegomadindorset thanks glad to be proved wrong:o

5 is not to small to learn not to stare.
dd loves small children, but not so keen at them staring at her

Obviously having asd kids staring is a bit more complex (!) but I don;t find it hard to say you can look, smile, ask questions if an when appropriate (ds3 has a thing about motorized chairs, although if you can;t see he has SN you need to get educated anyway)- but you don't stare. Not at someone who had green hair, or is disabled, or has the worst skirt on ever, or anything.

Now they don;t listen much- ds1 has a few issues regarding commenting about people (not disabled people for some reason, has chosen 2 far more arbitray characteristics) but it's a case of reinforce and keep it up.

ThreeSocks I hope ds3 didn;t upset you asking about your dd's chair, he enver means anything bad by it, he's just curious and our othert friends with CP are usually OK about it so he's used to it iyswim

Gald to be of help

That is a ridiculous rule THC, and I really hope these problems are highlighted to the organisers so that it doesn't happen again.

I heard them on the telly this morning talking about how people who need assistance or wheelchair spaces having to phone a premium rate phone line, which has worked out quite expensive for people. Some organiser representative just kept saying that they weren't making a profit from the phone line, and I understand it has to be funded somehow, but surely it woudont have been that hard for them to get another sponsorship deal for it. Even if people using the phone line had to listen to a short advert, it would be better than having to pay for something that everyone else has free access to.

It's ridiculous, but the best we can hope for is that organisers think these things through properly in future. They have done a lot to accommodate disabilities at London 2012, but there is always room for improvement.

personally- and I know everyone is different on this- if I had to choose between paying higher rate or increased ATOS involvement the paying higher phone lines costs wions every time.

Peachy, he never mentioned the chair, he asked what she liked to eat, she fell in love with him lol.
I do think it is different with kids with sn, I normally catch the cares eye and we do the look,

I love the C4 advert in the times "thanks for the warm-up" :)

I admit my chair does get looks often by younger kids who see it and yell Car but I don't mind that find it funny .

And if people want to ask questions about it am happy to answer as it id not one common to the Uk ,but I do not like people doing the staring and pointing and then the loud parenting thing Eithef ask me a question or not don't suddenly turn away and hush them like im contagious

But I object to people commenting and pointing at Ds3

DizzyBeeisSchoolShoeShopping me too

Ah yes The Look LOL

Know it well!

He did take a close look at our mate's chair, and I think at HC's so I assumed- but he does like food!

But yes, there is only one thing that can make dealing with a full on raging meltdown in public worse and that's staring and / or pointing.

there are loads of ways you can teach your children with out causing discomfort to a disabled person.

I would never allow my children to make anybody uncomfy by staring all I was trying to point out if a child is staring then it is up to the parent to tell them not to stare and answer any questions the child may have not shy away from disability,

Yup peachy he wanted to know what buttons did and how fast

But I do think it's sad not such a big thing about the torch relay