to want a ban on glass bottles in nightclubs...

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...and other late night bars/venues. incidents of alcohol fuelled violence increase late at night. a ban on glass bottles may not stop people fighting but it could help prevent some of the fatalities and serious injuries.

Please visit this facebook page set up by a woman who has recently lost her husband and father to her two children due to her him being the victim of an unprovoked attack with a glass bottle.

www.facebook.com/bottlestopnow

there's a petition here

www.pop-campaign.co.uk/

and another thread started here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/bereavement/1543914-A-pointless-murder-please-help-prevent-it-from-happening-to-anybody-else

(yes I know...a thread about a thread, but it's a good cause!)

As sorry as i am that this woman has lost her husband i wont be signing.

Young women i know who go clubing drink from bottles as it is safer as it is harder for someone to add drugs to. They dont put the bottle down and dont drink from anything that has not been opened in front of them.

Cabtspel plastic bottles or the disintegrating glass (like pint glasses are made from) can do the same job.

but most beers dont come in plastic bottles and even if you could get the beer makers to us them i dont think people would want to drink out of them.

At our students union, all the alcopops (WKD, VK, Smirnoff Ice etc) are sold in plastic bottles. It's great, no broken glass anywhere. I would imagine it would be a possibility to encourage brewers to offer beer in plastic bottles.

All the pubs round our football grounds only give drinks in plastic bottles or glasses on match day. Never seen anyone refuse to drink out of them!

I thought all clubs had a no-glass rule?

All murders are pointless.

But you cannot ban everything

FB campaigns tend to go the way of vigilantism.

Most beer makers have plastic versions already for festivals/gigs as pp pointed out.

And drinkers will always drink.

On the contrary I think it's much easier to drug someone's drink if it's in a bottle as the glass is often green or brown.

If you have a plastic cup and don't put it down, surely it's all the same?

You can't ban everything that causes potential harm to someone in the wrong hands. Personally I think the benefits of drinking from bottles in clubs far outweigh the negatives.

I'd much rather see drunken violent arseholes banned from clubs to be honest.

Most glasses and bottles are now glass in busy clubs and pubs. It's worth it. You can still protect your drink from spiking in a plastic bottle and use a spikey.

You can not spike a glass bottle, with plastic a needle can penetrate plastic.

Drug spiking is alot more common than someone getting glassed.

If alcohol fuelled violence is the problem then they need to ban alcohol, not the container it comes in.

If someone's determind to cause another person an injury they'll do it with an Um Bongo carton. Taking away glass won't stop certain people behaving like pychos.

They need to prevent the violence in the first place getting rid of the stupid 24hour drinking law would be a start .

It's not being over cautious. Very, very pissef people in huge groups mean trouble is gonna happen.

PET (Plastic bottles) are more expensive to buy than glass, which makes sme clubs reluctant to make the switch. Responsible clubs already use plastic, and in some cases the local council makes it part of the license conditions.

It's the law round our parts I assume (seeing as all bottles in clubs are plastic here)

Most of the pubs and clubs in our town centre serve everything in plastic and have done for at least twenty years, especially at weekends. The town is a lot quieter than it used to be though, and loads of venues have closed down over the past few years, so there isn't nearly as much trouble as there used to be. We used to be a "party destination" for people from miles around and the two main drinking streets in the town centre had some of the highest densities of pubs outside places like Ibiza and Aya Nappa apparently. There used to be at least one or two murders a year here at one time, and riots at least every bank holiday if not more often :(

Very interesting points here. Thankyou. To be honest I posted on this board to increase traffic to the lady's fb page as she is the friend of a friend...but of course this is AIBU so there will be lots of opinions ;) now wondering if I have been insensitive to her by posting in here. I am of the opinion that no, you can't prevent every possible attack but if there are statistically more glass related attacks at night clubs etc, then why not try and minimize the risks through the use of plastic bottles.

It's not insensitive :) no straight thinking person is going to click on your link to have a go at your friend who lost a child.

They're opinions that's all. Shared on here. I'm sure they won't be thrown in your friends face.

me ?six bruvs , lotsa jobs, one bruv told me ages ago , the reason staff in "good" booze outlets clean bottles before they go on shelf and after is because all cellars have RATS in , and as rats pee all the time and run across the crate tops ,they are pee ing on bottles , and no matter how you clean you can NEVER get rat piss away from underside of bottle top, the "cool" people who like to think it is "cool" to drink straight from bottle ... yuk !!! ikky tummy next day ? must have been something i ate ! rat piss ! in their system ! .truth.

Who let Ali G in da house

Rat piss?

Oooooo, blimey!

I always put a straw in the bottle so I think I'm okay...!

Urban myth

I just think by the time people are fathers then they are getting a bit old for the nightclub thing. It's not plastic bottles they need it is to grow up.