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To be annoyed with Ex-H/Ex MIL

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Moominsummermadness · 16/08/2012 11:50

I split up with Ex-H 7 years ago (today, to be precise!!). When I first left him, we had an agreement that he would have our 2 DDs (then 2 and 3) on Wednesday nights, Friday nights and Sunday nights. This has always been the arrangement, except for taking DDs on holiday. Communication between myself and ex has been pretty much impossible since I left him, due to the fact that that he cannot help being abusive, and we have never been able to discuss and resolve anything. His mum has been quite reasonable, so when things came to a head 18 months ago. Just a couple of examples:- he came to our house one night, threatening DH with a golf club, as someone had thrown something at his door, and he assumed it was DH- totally unfounded. DH decided to report it to the police a day later. Ex retaliated and decided to write a 5 page essay to SS, saying we neglected DDs and that I was mentally unstable (because I suffered from anorexia in my teens). It was very upsetting having to go for a meeting with SS, but the SW basically laughed at the nonsense ex had written. Then the icing on the cake, ex turned up to pick DDs up on the friday night as usual. DH walked DDs out of the house, so I didn't have to see him. Ex started shouted abuse about me, and DDs got very upset as they were getting into his car. I could hear them crying from inside the house, so I went up to his car to console them, half sat on the back seat of his car to give them a cuddle, and he decided to drive off, knowing that I was half in the car. He was driving quite slowly, but I couldn't get in or out. I fell out, and he drove over my foot. After this, there was no way that he could come near the house (he was arrested, but released without charge), so ex-MIL said that she would act as an intermediary. This has worked fine, she has managed to stay fairly neutral, and it helps that arrangements for things other that the norm can be sorted out. During the holidays, I have been told several times at short notice that ex isn't having the girls on the normal nights. This has been fine and I've accepted it, they are my children and would rather have them full time anyway. However, we have made arrangements to go out for a meal with 2 other couples tomorrow night- I'm due to have a baby in 5 weeks, so my friends thought it would be nice to have a meal out before the baby arrives. They arranged it for a Friday night as we don't have DD1 and DD2, and DD3 (my current DH's child) will go to my MIL's overnight. It's been arranged for a month. The other couples have arranged baby-sitting. DD1 said this morning that she thought her Grandma had said yesterday that her and DD2 could stay at ours tomorrow. I texted ex-MIL this morning, so ask if it was true and explained that we have plans that would be difficult to change. She said that yes, she thought I might like more time with the girls, and that I should 'know' that arrangements can change during the school holidays. She did say that she could have the girls though, or ex-H. When I said yes please, could she have them, she then changed her mind and said no, as she is self-employed as a dance teacher, and wants her Saturday morning off as she only gets 4 off per year (not true as she goes abroad at least 4 times per year etc). I was offering to collect the girls at 8am. She said ex-H wouldn't have them either, I should change my plans. I rang lovely MIL, who has said that she would have all three DDs overnight, so problem sorted, luckily. AIBU to think that I should be consulted when ex decides that he is not having DDs, or should I just accept that they are my children, and I shouldn't make plans in case situations like this arise? I feel really cross about it all.

Sorry for the lone rant!

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advisemewisely · 16/08/2012 11:56

your ex is a cunt.
and so's his mother.

CadleCrap · 16/08/2012 11:57

With paragraphs

I split up with Ex-H 7 years ago (today, to be precise!!). When I first left him, we had an agreement that he would have our 2 DDs (then 2 and 3) on Wednesday nights, Friday nights and Sunday nights. This has always been the arrangement, except for taking DDs on holiday.

Communication between myself and ex has been pretty much impossible since I left him, due to the fact that that he cannot help being abusive, and we have never been able to discuss and resolve anything.

His mum has been quite reasonable, so when things came to a head 18 months ago. Just a couple of examples:- he came to our house one night, threatening DH with a golf club, as someone had thrown something at his door, and he assumed it was DH- totally unfounded. DH decided to report it to the police a day later. Ex retaliated and decided to write a 5 page essay to SS, saying we neglected DDs and that I was mentally unstable (because I suffered from anorexia in my teens).

It was very upsetting having to go for a meeting with SS, but the SW basically laughed at the nonsense ex had written. Then the icing on the cake, ex turned up to pick DDs up on the friday night as usual. DH walked DDs out of the house, so I didn't have to see him. Ex started shouted abuse about me, and DDs got very upset as they were getting into his car. I could hear them crying from inside the house, so I went up to his car to console them, half sat on the back seat of his car to give them a cuddle, and he decided to drive off, knowing that I was half in the car. He was driving quite slowly, but I couldn't get in or out. I fell out, and he drove over my foot.

After this, there was no way that he could come near the house (he was arrested, but released without charge), so ex-MIL said that she would act as an intermediary. This has worked fine, she has managed to stay fairly neutral, and it helps that arrangements for things other that the norm can be sorted out.

During the holidays, I have been told several times at short notice that ex isn't having the girls on the normal nights. This has been fine and I've accepted it, they are my children and would rather have them full time anyway.

However, we have made arrangements to go out for a meal with 2 other couples tomorrow night- I'm due to have a baby in 5 weeks, so my friends thought it would be nice to have a meal out before the baby arrives. They arranged it for a Friday night as we don't have DD1 and DD2, and DD3 (my current DH's child) will go to my MIL's overnight. It's been arranged for a month. The other couples have arranged baby-sitting.

DD1 said this morning that she thought her Grandma had said yesterday that her and DD2 could stay at ours tomorrow. I texted ex-MIL this morning, so ask if it was true and explained that we have plans that would be difficult to change. She said that yes, she thought I might like more time with the girls, and that I should 'know' that arrangements can change during the school holidays. She did say that she could have the girls though, or ex-H.

When I said yes please, could she have them, she then changed her mind and said no, as she is self-employed as a dance teacher, and wants her Saturday morning off as she only gets 4 off per year (not true as she goes abroad at least 4 times per year etc). I was offering to collect the girls at 8am. She said ex-H wouldn't have them either, I should change my plans.

I rang lovely MIL, who has said that she would have all three DDs overnight, so problem sorted, luckily. AIBU to think that I should be consulted when ex decides that he is not having DDs, or should I just accept that they are my children, and I shouldn't make plans in case situations like this arise? I feel really cross about it all.

YANBU - you need to have notice, anfd they are his DC too.

OldGreyWiffleTest · 16/08/2012 11:58

Paragraphs would make this a lot easier to read. I am sorry, but I can't wade through it as it is, so can't comment.

OldGreyWiffleTest · 16/08/2012 11:59

Ooh, well done cadlecrap !

diddl · 16/08/2012 12:03

I´m so glad that ex MIL said she wouldn´t have them.

How nice for them all to be together with someone who cares instead.

As for your ex.

Words fail me.

Do the children enjoy their time with him?

I´d be looking at stopping it or making it supervised (not by ex mil).

He drove over your foot.

I can´t get over that.

His children were in the car, there was a door open & he started to drive??!!

Is that not an offence?

diddl · 16/08/2012 12:04

I don´t know whether to laugh or cry that people are unable to read that without paragraphs.

Moominsummermadness · 16/08/2012 12:05

Sorry, I stand corrected ( and can see the point- should have previewed).

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Moominsummermadness · 16/08/2012 12:09

diddl, the girls mostly like going- dd2 is sometimes reluctant. It is indeed an offence to drive like that, but the police weren't really interested.

He's fine with the girls, if a little strict. It's just me and DH that he's an arse towards.

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advisemewisely · 16/08/2012 12:10

he is not fine with the girls. he picks them up and puts them down to suit him, and to spite you. that is not a good father.

diddl · 16/08/2012 12:12

He also shouts enough to make them cry & drives over your foot in front of them.

It´s a wonder that they want to see him again.

He certainly doesn´t deserve it!

Moominsummermadness · 16/08/2012 12:24

He earns more than me and DH put together, so is forever treating the girls to days out, horse-riding lessons etc. Basically it's bribery, but nine and ten year olds tend to get drawn into it! I'm hoping that they'll soon be old enough to see him for what he really is. It's such an awkward situation. DD2 frequently doesn't want to go, especially when there aren't expensive activities on offer, but then I get accused of influencing her attitude towards him.

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zippey · 16/08/2012 12:25

Thanks cadlecrap - that makes it a lot easier to read.

You're not being unreasonable, your ex doesnt sound very nice.

diddl · 16/08/2012 12:44

Well I agree that it won´t be long before they realise that he can´t really be bothered.

Maybe it´s possible that they already only go for the acticities.

flyoverthehill · 16/08/2012 12:46

Been there, its awful. One day a young woman said (exH had been particularly bad that week) to me "when they get older the'll just decide to cut contact". No it wasn't even profound, but it was true, now my dc's have no contact with him, his own family have no contact with him. And to think I never used to believe in karma. (Everyone gets so touchy if people same MIL and bad in the same sentence- Well mine was a BITCH ! It taught me to be lovely to all future IL's)

G1nger · 16/08/2012 12:48

I wouldn't let that unstable, horrible bastard anywhere near them.

poopnscoop · 16/08/2012 12:52

Can I just say... as a child I had a twat of a father... divorce et al.

The kids DO see what he is... they are not fooled... they want to see their dad, they love him, but they see what he does to you too... they're too young now to make any kind of stand, they feel loyalty toward both of you understandably, but might refuse to see him for visits when they're older, due to his attitude towards you. Kids see a lot more than we realise. He is digging his own grave. You just continue to be the mum you are... loving and caring and civil toward him - the kids see this... and love you more for it x

poopnscoop · 16/08/2012 12:53

I meant ...

'loving and caring toward them and civil toward him'...

ILiveInAPineapple · 16/08/2012 13:52

First of all, I think people who say they can't read without paragraphs are very rude. If you genuinely can't, then just don't reply at all.

Ok now to the op - your exh and exmil are twats. You are doing the right thing by refusing to get drawn into anything and just accepting the late notice changes. Don't let them know it upsets and inconveniences you; since they are twats, they will probably do it more! Like you say, at least you get more time with them then. Your dc will see what he is really like when they are older. It's hard when you are that young not to be attracted by money/ expensive days out/ gifts etc. but as you get older, and not much older than they already are actually, you realise there is more to life than that, and they will be fed up of being let down by him, or having to rearrange their social lives with friends to see him.

Just maintain the moral high ground and he will show himself to them for the ball bag that he is and you can have the last laugh.

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