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Santander berevement torture

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andyinlondon · 11/08/2012 16:19

Hi all sorry for the long post

This is the story of how Santander treats not only their own customers but also the bereaved relatives of one of their customers.

My mother passed away back in January 2009 and I was named the sole beneficiary in her will and the executor of her estate.

All in all an upsetting time, with lots of paperwork to do, people and organizations to inform, arrangements and claims to make ect, ect.

All the organizations I had to contact were very helpful and sympathetic and tried to make things as easy as possible to resolve, insurance companies the pensions office and the local branch of the Santander where my mother did her banking.

However the nice chap at the local branch of Santander was not able to do anything with regard to my mother?s accounts or even the Santander shares that she held from the Santander take over of the Abbey.

He asked for her documents and copied them all, death cert, marriage cert will and my id,

He photocopied them all and said that he would have to send them to the probate department to be processed.

He said it would take 7 to 10 days but it was a strait forward case and would be quickly dealt with.

It went downhill from there!

I left it for two weeks trusting that what I had been told was correct but having not heard anything I thought I would check on the progress.
I called the local branch and spoke to the account rep who said he had sent the paper work in and was surprised I had not had any reply.
He then spoke to the probate dept who asked him to resubmit the paperwork and that they would then deal with it.

Another week goes by and the same thing happens again ... paperwork resubmitted yet again and calls made to the probate dept by the account rep.

This time the probate dept are getting snotty with the account rep but he resubmits the paperwork as they request.

Another week and still nothing so I chase it up and the account rep tries to call the probate dept who hang up on him, so he calls the manager of the probate dept and complains about what has happened.

The manager promises to look into it and call him back. Of course this does not happen.

So further calls are made and the bank manager gets involved and eventually some of my mother?s accounts are closed. The probate dept then sends out a series of cheques from these accounts most of which were for a few pounds each.

At last I think a light at the end of the tunnel it has taken some 7 weeks but finally a resolution.

But of course it is not at all finished.

Another couple ofweeks go by and nothing further from Santander so I call the account rep again who tries to chase it up but gets nowhere.
At this point he tells me that the shares have to be resolved separately and to contact Santander directly to get the claim form.

So 3 calls to the Santander shareholders helpline over three weeks produces no claim form

So I had to call to Santander complaints line to even get a claim form sent out and I am sure this will be another epic battle. (still not resolved some 3 years later)

Back to the rest of the accounts and another week goes by so I call the complaints dept to complain and I am told they cannot do anything as the branch are dealing with it.

So I call the branch who tell me, no the complaints dept are now dealing withit. So I give it a few days and call complaints again who insist that no the branch is dealing with it and they cannot touch it until the branch writes tome and tells me they have failed to resolve it.

So I call the branch again and they tell me they are sending me this letter. At which point I lose it,

I call the chairman?s office and lodge an official complaint with them, this is supposed to be the top level complaint in the whole organization.

I speak to a polite lady who expresses concern and says that they will take over the complaint at head office and resolve it quickly.

So I leave it another week and hear nothing so I call them again and am told that they have sent out an acknowledgment letter and someone will be assigned to investigate my complaint.

So in other words they have done nothing for yet another week!
I have had to deal with the death of my mother and all the pain and trauma that that has caused but I am not even been allowed to try and begin the healing process because Santander are forcing me to confront her death on a daily basis and rubbing my face in it buy making me fight and chase them every day now.

Santander were unlawfully holding my mother?s money with no excuse, they cannot explain why.They claim there is no problem but refuse to process the paperwork

And to cap it all........ The best bit now!

I got a letter from their debt recovery department demanding that I, as the executor of her estate clear a small overdraft that was left on her current account.

This despite the fact that Santander are holding over ten times that amount still in her other accounts.

And of course the probate department are supposed to clear any debts or overdrafts ECT as part of the process of closing the accounts before they release any funds to the estate.

When I first went into the branch to formally inform them of my mothers death and give them all the paper work they had requested, they had print outs of all my mother's accounts with balances and totals.

I was given this information but alas not the actual documents
so that I could do the required probate steps and make all the arrangements.The final figure paid from Santander was £5000 less than this amount. With no explanation as to why.

And the complaint to the chairman?s office

well after a few weeks of, you guessed it no contact or information I got a garbled phone call saying that they had investigated and yes it had not gone a sit should and lessons had been learned, no disciplinary action at the probate dept, denial of the missing £5000 and an offer of £500 compensation.

My reply to that was unprintable.

At that point I pretty much gave up as I could not take the stress and upset any more

Now jump forward to 2012 and the saga continues.

I am now getting threatening letters from the German government and the solicitors they have hired in London because once again Santander lied to me and have stolen money again from my late mother.

When I reported her death to Santander and went through the whole horrible process I described above, I was told that all of my mother?s accounts were closed and all activity was suspended on them,
not so!

I find out from the German government who have been paying a pension to my late mother and this pension has been happily taken by Santander and kept by them.

No mention to me about it and into a supposedly closed account.

Naturally the German government want this over paid money back and Santander are refusing to return it either to the pension provider or to me so I could return it.

So let this saga be a warning to you all???. If you think you may die one day and if you have relatives who will have to deal with things after you are gone........
Then make sure you do not bank with Santander

Andy

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andyinlondon · 13/08/2012 10:51

LiasMed god that is terrible, can they get any worse

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bronze · 13/08/2012 11:57

tweetlonger.com/ hth

FeakAndWeeble · 13/08/2012 12:00

Andy if you're on twitter my nn is @PonkersMa, happy to retweet for you.

andyinlondon · 13/08/2012 12:17

Hi bronze

thanks for that link i have tweeted it all on @andyinscotland

not got the hang of twitter yet

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NurseRatched · 13/08/2012 13:06

Sorry for your loss OP. Bloody hell that's a terrible story - which I don't blame you for posting wherever possible Sad

quoteunquote · 13/08/2012 14:20

OP, I know quite a few people who have had very similar experiences with Santander with family members money after death, maybe its company policy to hold on to others money for as long as possible, the more I hear about them the more it seems like the only explanation.

well done you for singing it from the roof tops, please put this on twitter so others are fore warned, and don't have to go through the unnecessary stress that you have had, good luck, I hope you are left in peace soon.

contact these people

FeakAndWeeble · 13/08/2012 15:42

Andy I have retweeted it for you. Perhaps it may be an idea to start a thread in Chat giving a brief explanation of what's gone on, and ask for those with twitter to please retweet for you. I hope it helps but I'm sure it can't do any harm anyway. Good luck.

andyinlondon · 13/08/2012 16:15

Hi FeakAndWeeble
thank you for retweeting that was very kind of you

i am not sure what you mean by a thread in chat is that on here or on twitter
(giving away my age here with this social networking ignorance)

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/08/2012 16:17

Have you referred it to the Ombudsman, the bank's are obliged to investigate a complaint via them.
www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/

FeakAndWeeble · 13/08/2012 16:25

Have PMd you Andy

andyinlondon · 15/08/2012 15:07

Hi all
A bit of an update, just spent an hour on the phone with santander this afternoon, giving them one last chance to sort all this out before i take this further,
the whole tone of the conversation did change when i told them to google the title of this thread and they saw MN was top of the list and how many other sites this appeared on, some in arabic and no i did not post those,
They promised that this was now esculated to very urgent and that they were assigning an investigator today and that they would keep me informed every step of the way.
they promised that they would deal with this complaint quickly and efficiently,
they said they had found the pension payments and they also said they may have found out why the final settlement was £5000 short.
So fingers crossed
thanks for all the support so far and i will let you know what happens
Andy

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MrsSchadenfreude · 15/08/2012 15:48

I really feel for you. It took nine months for Santander to close my grandmother's accounts after her death and to pay the money to the executors. They kept losing everything and were so inefficient it wasn't true.

TheFidgetySheep · 15/08/2012 15:51

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LineRunner · 15/08/2012 16:05

Santander just sent me a cheque for 7p. That's seven actual pence.

Andy, I shall ritually burn it in my garden in your honour.

FeakAndWeeble · 15/08/2012 16:13

LineRunner Grin

So glad to hear they're actually doing something Andy, keep us informed!

andyinlondon · 15/08/2012 16:23

MrsSchadenfreude thats exactly the same thing they did with my Mother's accounts.

TheFidgetySheep thets horrible, how insensitive can you get

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andyinlondon · 15/08/2012 16:24

LineRunner i am Honored Grin

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andyinlondon · 15/08/2012 16:25

I will do FeakAndWeeble

and thanks again for all your help

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Blondeshavemorefun · 15/08/2012 17:02

i had a run in with santander last year - my dh sadly died last april (suicide) and he had a business account as well as a savings account with them,plus so did i

my dh and i didnt have a will, (please everyone make one esp if have children as makes life so much easier) so had to go through probate but as his wife and next of kin I would receive everything eventually

think probate with them was over £30k and dh def didnt have that amount in his account and my dad told the man that and wanted to transfer all funds to me but santander said no and we had to fill in countless forms which santander did for me, but turns out the man filled in wrong and had to do them all again - hence delaying dh money, which tbh i needed

he also when said wanted to close his account and transfer funds to me due to his death said no problem, just get dh to sign the form-my dad was luckily with me and flipped with him and said to listen properly,that my dh , his sil was dead

he then smirked when my dad pointed out he had filled in forms wrong - my dad made a formal complaint and much later i got £50 to say sorry

tbh i faced many problems with banks/companies when dh died and the only one that came through and made things easy was o2 - they imm cancelled his phone and waivered his final bill of £50ish

andyinlondon · 15/08/2012 17:19

Hello Blondeshavemorefun

i am very sorry to hear of your loss,
i can only say thank goodness your father was there to help
all the best
Andy

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maxmillie · 15/08/2012 17:22

so sorry blondes, how awful to make you go through that extra crap.

My Father also died without a will and even though my mother eventually got everything, it took a lot longer and I had to send off 30 or 40 death certificates over the course of a year to sort everything out. I must say it was pretty depressing photocopying endless death certificates reminding me of my Fathers sudden and traumatic death. Can I echo to everyone with a family - please make a will, even a basic one makes life easier for the people sorting everything out.

Andy - really hope this gets sorted.

MyDogShitsMoney · 15/08/2012 17:29

OP have you not contacted FOS in all this time?

They'll have it sorted out in a matter of weeks. That's what they're there for.

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/08/2012 18:09

maxmillie - sorry to hear about your dad :(

yep everyone wanted to death certificate but only got interim one while waiting for inquest - and banks wanted the proper one which obv i didnt have

and then once i did have the proper one, i got loads of copies as every company wanted to see it and when changing bills to take name off or to cancel dh car insurance etc, all wanted to see the certificate

if we had a will then would have been so much easier and all bank/financial stuff would have been easier and all automatically gone to me-we were both 37 when dh died and just hadnt got round to getting one

the amount of hassles i went through, thank god i had daddy blondes to guide me through most of it and as we were married but no kids, we were the easiest to sort out iyswim -

so for those of you who have kids/arent married/property isnt in joint names etc please get a will as if god forbid something does happen to either of you, it makes one thing less stressful in what is the worst time of your life :( x

MrsMiniversCharlady · 15/08/2012 18:25

I've had a Santander account for 10 years, had no problems at all. However, I've read so many horror stories about them that I've been planning to move for a while and this thread has given me the final push to actually go ahead and transfer my account somewhere else.

So sorry for your loss, hope they do finally get it sorted.

andyinlondon · 15/08/2012 18:36

Maxmillie sorry about your dad too
great advise Maxmille and Blondes everyone should have a will, i had 4 copies of the death cert and had to send them all out, get them back and send them out again.
luckly my mother did have a will i can only imagine how much worse it would have been without one.

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