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To feel so very sorry for Hans rowsling

90 replies

TheEnthusiasticTroll · 02/08/2012 01:47

and think he should not be sent to jail.

thats it really, I can empathise and sympathise with him and not sure a jail scentance is going to make any difference to the supposed crime or his rehabilitation.

Im pretty sure he has suffered enough.

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TeamGBIWI · 02/08/2012 09:01

You can sympathise with both, surely? They aren't mutually exclusive.

Birdsgottafly · 02/08/2012 09:15

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QuickLookUsainBolt · 02/08/2012 09:26

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HellonHeels · 02/08/2012 09:44

"No point sending someone to jail who is in no way going to harm anyone else at taxpayers expense"

Driving under the influence of drugs has huge potential to harm other people.

TangoSierra · 02/08/2012 09:48

It is terribly sad all round.

DuelingFanjo · 02/08/2012 09:52

if they had been properly prosecuted for their previous drug issues (Trying to bring or take drugs out of the country - personal stash I think - and then something like 50g of coke found in their house) then perhaps they might have got the help they needed way back then and maybe she would be alive now.

I feel very sorry for the children. They seem to have had a long period in their lives where they were drug free and Eva Rousing seemed to be trying to get help for her addictions.

Such a shame.

I do agree prison is probably not the best place.

I have a question - is it true that heavy cocaine use turns your hair grey?

DinahMoHum · 02/08/2012 10:48

his wife died, and he knew toxicology reports would mean his addiction would have to be curtailed. Scary stuff if youre not ready to quit. He blotted it out with more heroin and the longer he left it, the harder it got.
His mind wasnt working properly for sure, but he was a grown man with responsibilities, and if your wife dies, you dont wrap her in bin bags and hide her or you get in trouble.

I think theyre already being pretty lenient

TheSurgeonsMate · 02/08/2012 10:48

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frostyfingers · 02/08/2012 10:54

I feel sorry for both of them, no more or less than I would feel for anyone who has got themselves into such a horrible position. I don't think it matters who they are or where they come from. I'd feel as sad for someone from a poorer background that they have got themselves into such a mess that he couldn't acknowledge that his wife was dead.

Olympia2012 · 02/08/2012 11:22

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DuelingFanjo · 02/08/2012 11:22

reading that telegraph article it does really amaze me that this has gone through the courts so quickly. Pretty sure this would have dragged on had it been someone poorer.

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TeamGBIWI · 02/08/2012 11:37

Olympia - yes, it's been quoted on the news reports several times, from his testimony in court yesterday

AbsofAwesomeness · 02/08/2012 11:53

Wealth does not protect you from things like drug addiction, mental illness, death etc. It does sound incredibly tragic and a waste of at least two lives (his and hers), and none of us can even begin to understand the effect it has had on their children.

diddl · 02/08/2012 13:53

Wealth doesn´t protect you from it, but you can at least afford to seek help!

Unbelievable that they had been "clean" for 10yrs & then supposedly one drink & it set them off again!

sparkle12mar08 · 02/08/2012 14:12

Don't feel in the least bit sorry for him, no. I don't believe jail is appropriate for the concealing the body offense either, but think it may well be for driving under the influence one - he could have killed someone doing that.

diddl · 02/08/2012 14:20

I know that they have done a lot of good with the money-but can´t help thinking-what a waste.

All that money-& all they can think of doing with it is drugs.

I read that they met in rehab.

queenrollo · 02/08/2012 14:42

it matters not if you are rich or poor...if you are an addict you still have to want to stop the destructive behaviour.
As far as I am aware one of the reasons behind his mental health issues and subsequent addiction was guilt at having such a fortune at his disposal when he felt he hadn't earnt it.

Fixing addiction, especially when coupled with this level of mental health issues is really not as simple as just throwing money at the problem.

It's incredibly sad for everyone concerned.

diddl · 02/08/2012 14:48

What level of mental health issues?

Those brought about by his addiction?

What I mean about the money is that he could have got help if he´d wanted-not many have that option.

I suppose I don´t understand how this happens-why people get into drugs-and even less so when there aren´t the everyday worries that many of us have-can we afford a holiday/the bills...

queenrollo · 02/08/2012 15:03

who says the mental health issues were caused by the drug addiction? some people turn to drugs to try and escape the mental health issues they have.

diddl · 02/08/2012 15:15

Actually, I don´t know if he even has/had mental health issues.

PacificDogwood · 02/08/2012 15:43

I had entirely missed the news that he had been arrested for erratic driving.

I entirely agree that a large number of people 'selfmedicate' with alcohol and drugs in an attempt to alleviate the symptoms of their mental health issues.
Which then makes them worse Sad. And even less able to seek help.

Still, you don't hear about somebody living with the body of a loved one for that length of time very often.
I wonder how much he felt obliged to 'protect' some kind of reputation??

diddl, just like mental illness, addiction can (and does) affect every anybody from any walk of life.

AbsofAwesomeness · 02/08/2012 15:44

According to this article he has had crippling social anxiety (which could be why he started using drugs, to be able to cope in social situations?), which had returned. Being from a prominent and wealthy family presumably (I don't come from such a family, so couldn't decisively comment) involves a lot of network, society events. As some who's a bit social awkward myself, I'd find it tough. Someone who is very anxious would find it unbearable. They had moved into a room in the top of their house, because they thought they wouldn't be able to explain to people what had gone wrong.

The man hid his wife's body for 2 months as he didn't want to let her go - I would say that's a pretty good indication that he was not mentally well.

diddl · 02/08/2012 15:54

Yes I realise that anyone can be affected.

I wonder what on earth would have happened had he not been stopped for his driving?