to think that the popularity of 50 Shades of Grey...

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...says something very depressing about the state of women's consciousness in 2112?

I read the first book over the weekend and cant really see the big fascination. I dont think i,ll bother reading the other 2 books being honest

The purpose built room didn't bother me, nor did the S and M bollocks, it was the fact that it read like it was written by a horny teenager that made it so shit. And Ana's multiple personalities were rather annoying too.

How she's managed to make it to 21 years of age when Christian has to keep reminding her to breathe is beyond me

It's disappointing on so many levels and yes I worry about the messages that it is giving out, particularly that a man just tells you to come and you instantly have another earth shattering orgasm...

I found Taylor - the man who can - and Mrs Jone's the most appealing characters I want a housekeeper and a man that can shop for clothes that always fit perfectly!

errant apostrophe!

YABU to start another thread about it.

DW said it was the type of bodice ripper she read when she was a naive fifteen year old....the sex is not particularly risque for most thirty/forty somethings who've had a bit of a life is it???? Positively vanilla some would say

Op - any chance of the lottery numbers for 2013?

is interesting that you all think it's shite, but have read it cover to cover! Admitting you enjoyed 50 shades: the last taboo??

My MIL is reading it.....

I don't mind admitting I quite enjoyed it.

But I think there's an interesting discussion to be had- and which I hoped to start- about what it says about how women see themselves and how women are still expected to take responsibility for how men behave. It's just he same as women who come on here and say things like "dp's so grumpy today and it's all my fault, I didn't keep the children quiet enough while he was having a lie in and then I didn't hear him when he called for a cup of tea. I think I'll cook his favourite dinner tonight- I hope that means he'll be in a better mood tomorrow."

< MNHQ are you going to move this thread to chat >

If you want MNHQ to move something or comment on something or in general do anything at all you need to hit "report", they don't actually read every post.

I think the only thing it really says to me, is something about British culture and the titillation and weird obsession with 'naughty' and the fact that women have to do what all their friends are doing and buy into hype far too easily.

Beyond that I actually don't think it says a lot. I actually think that looking back in 20 years time, looking at the contents of the book are pretty irrelevant and unrevealing. The revealing thing is why women are choosing it in the first place.

I do find it utterly depressing. There's a million and one things to read out there, and yet this is what is THE popular thing. But then, we all know which newspapers are the most popular too...

I tolerated it because it was the only book on my phone at the time. I got half way through the first book during a particularly boring shift at work and I hate not finishing books, so read the rest under duress

I also hate being the only one who doesn't know about the latest in-thing

It was mainly laughably bad and so entertaining but not in the way the author intended, especially the oblongta medulla rubbish. And Ana's personalities arguing with themselves. I skim read most of 'kinky fuckery' parts, they were horrendously written and not at all sexy. I don't think an author who cannot use the word 'vagina' or one of the many adult slang words for it, is mature enough to be writing about 'kinky fuckery'

Even my 9yo has matured past calling it 'down there'

I do think it says something about women when Christian Grey is held up by many as the perfect man. I don't know about anyone else but if some random bloke started turning up everywhere I was, despite living in a different state and started sending me priceless books I'd be ringing the police as opposed to having conversations with my inner goddess.

still cant belive her made her sell her beetle after 2-3 meeting with him

Talking about Christian Grey as "the perfect man" is this decade's equivalent of saying I'm so like Bridget Jones.

50 shades is the new daily mail.

Everyone says how shit it is but still reads it.

BTW i haven't read it and wont until it comes up on the free list for kindle which will probably be in the year 2112

It's the Christian Grey worship that I find most troubling.

Not read it, as I used to read bad SM fanfiction for free years ago, and grew out of it!

But I can't help noticing that WHSmith has a huge display of these Grey books. It's a trilogy now, and the final one is called Fifty Shades Freed *. Is that the one where the female protagonist Leaves The Bastard?

*Wrote those sequels quickly, didn't you, dear author? Had they even been proofed before they hit the shelves?

Also i know its a book. I don't find Christian personality attractive and that the main thing i look for in a man. I have dumped a boyfriend for saying i couldn't go out with friends. there would be no way i could be with some one who couldn't rspect my personal space

It makes me cringe and despair! If it was well written or thought provoking then fine. As it is it is so badly written that anyone who tells me they enjoyed it gets catsbummouth from me.

I will say that those of us who write Proper Smut are enjoying a little tiny bit of a renaissance in our careers. Though I have just had to whip through one of my own stories and remove a couple of references to lip-biting...

Aww, but he has ishoos McHappy. He just needs a good kicking woman to fix him

Biting of one's own lip, or biting of someone else's lip?

I am resisting I don't want to read it I feel like I am not in the gang so to speak,
, everybody and their granny has read it and talk about it and reference bloody Mr grey is he really such a great bloke?
I was instantly put off when Iheard from a mumsnetter that it was twilight fan fiction but it is a series of books as somebody else said its like watching TOWIE or xfactor popular culture people like to follow what others are doing,