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AIBU To allow my 22 month old son a sip of non-alcoholic beer

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RetroDad · 17/07/2012 23:41

My wife has been looking through this forum since before our son was born and I rather enjoy it myself so I'm going to post something that has me torn.

  • Before you destroy me, please note that I HAVE NOT knowingly allowed my son to consume ANY alcoholic beverage. Yeah... that's right I AM a perfect parent (Please note the sarcasm).

So... I have allowed my son a good couple of swigs of non-alcoholic beer. I have to admit, it felt naughty to allow him both times; The first time I guess I was just curious to see if he enjoyed it. The second time, quickly after the first, when he actually reached out to grab the bottle out of my hand and lift it to his mouth made my wife and I chuckle (He'd never done anything like that before), the third time we pulled it away and responded with the old "No, I think that's quite enough there little man ...before it goes to your head".

but it got me thinking... It can't be any worse to give a child of any age a glass of non-alcoholic beer over say... everybody's favourite Cola variant; take for instance the ingredients.

General Cola variant ingredients (sourced from about.com):

carbonated water
sugar (which can be sucrose or high-fructose corn syrup)
caffeine
phosphoric acid v. caramel (E150d)
natural flavourings (which include coca leaf extract)

Non-alcoholic beer ingredients:
Water
(and the following mixed in various quantities and dependent on the beer, might not appear at all)
Barley,
Malt,
Wheat,
Hops

I find it a little more re-assuring as a parent that I can identify all the ingredients in the beer, I guess I don't really understand what the phosphoric acid is for in the coke, probably adds the flavour, but I'm also especially re-assured that the beer doesn't have any fructose (a corn-syrup that is slowly gaining prominence as a potential cause for diabetes and obesity). The Sucrose I'm not so interested in as it's just diluted table-sugar. Most kids have it in there breakfast, bread, squash, you name it it's in it.

What the beer doesn't say it has is Sugar but for anybody who doesn't understand how beer is made, very simply, the sugar in beer (lager, ale, stout, wine etc.) is fermented into alcohol, which means non-alcoholic beer contains all the same sugar that they would usually add for the process whilst still getting the sweet hoppy flavour.

So there is sugar in both, but they're going to appear in different quantities right. Quick math later comparing my brand of coke to my brand of non-alcoholic beer and ... they're both around 10 grams per 100 ml. So they're both going to rot your teeth.

But hey, at least one doesn't have an addictive substance in it; caffeine.

So I guess my own feelings are swayed by public opinion... do I feel wrong giving my son a swig of a brew whose alcoholic uncle is responsible for drunken pub brawls, trips to casualty, vandalism, bad sex, and massive NHS costs and shouldn't I feel just as bad about giving my son a beverage responsible for Father Christmas and a centuries worth of seasonal commercialism, obesity, tooth decay and at least 8 years of hyperactive children at nephews parties. Parties I didn't enjoy.

Non-alcoholic beer hasn't caused any problem has it?

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WorraLiberty · 17/07/2012 23:46

Why would you give a baby either of those drinks?

Just keep the bottle away from him.

The gas alone will play havoc with his guts.

Noqontrol · 17/07/2012 23:47
Hmm
Kleptronic · 17/07/2012 23:48

Bloody hell. You don't give them either. Caffeine and huge amounts of sugar is bad for nippers. Likewise artificial sweeteners. Teaching nippers beer is good is bad for their future. YABU.

Also, methinks thou dost protest too much. You know YABU.

WorraLiberty · 17/07/2012 23:49

And how many times have you had sex with his Uncle to decide it was bad?

pumpkinsweetie · 17/07/2012 23:52

YABVU

TheVermiciousKnid · 17/07/2012 23:52

But it's not actually a choice between either alcohol free beer or coke. Comparing them is pointless. You don't need to give him either of them. Bizarre.

WorraLiberty · 17/07/2012 23:55

Why not introduce alcopops as one of his 5 a day?

RetroDad · 17/07/2012 23:58

Sorry I should probably state that I or my wife have never given our child coke or any fizzy pop or other such rubbish... apart from the n/a beer ofcourse. I mean this as a hypothetical case really. I know the argument is nought really but when a child is 6 or 7 and they're at parties the reality is that they're going to consume such stuff... I guess i would just prefer it to be something I know is in it.

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IvanaNap · 18/07/2012 00:00

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RetroDad · 18/07/2012 00:01

@ worraliberty

Do they come in fruit flavours?

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WorraLiberty · 18/07/2012 00:01

As parents we prefer lots of things....

Kleptronic · 18/07/2012 00:01

Well you're not 22 months, go right ahead.

WorraLiberty · 18/07/2012 00:02

Alcopops? Why yes of course...and the Cranberry has medicinal properties Grin

TheVermiciousKnid · 18/07/2012 00:04

Apparently even non-alcoholic beer contains some alcohol.

Kleptronic · 18/07/2012 00:04

Retro if you know the argument is nought you must be really, really bored because that must've taken aaaages to type.

Also, you have given your child fizzy pop. No alcohol ersatz beer fizzy pop. So there.

RetroDad · 18/07/2012 00:05

@Kleptronic

"Teaching nippers beer is good is bad for their future"

Is it? We teach children sex at an early age so they can take a responsible approach to it in the future.

At the end of the day it's a drink. You could re-brand it as 'schlurm' and remove all connotation to beer and you'd have just another soda. Only one you knew what every ingredient was.

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Brandnewbrighttomorrow · 18/07/2012 00:07

Yabvu. My eldest is 7 and has never drunk any fizzy pop - there's just no need at that age, let alone 22 months... Very Confused as to why you would even be considering it?

RetroDad · 18/07/2012 00:07

I guess the beer i tried is breaking trade rights then [http://www.alcoholfree.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=229]

I don't think you can get less the 0.0%.

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Kleptronic · 18/07/2012 00:08

Yeah, you teach them about it in context, when they are older, the good and the bad. You don't introduce it like milk. You're introducing the taste as good, parent sanctioned, at this age? You giving your 22 month old sex ed lessons then?

TheVermiciousKnid · 18/07/2012 00:10

You don't happen to be a member of the entirely fictional 'Non-Alcoholic Beer Marketing Board', do you? Hmm

RetroDad · 18/07/2012 00:10

@ Kleptronic

I was bored. I was also interested in the response though.

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Kleptronic · 18/07/2012 00:11

Sorry, I didn't mean to cast horrible assertions - was trying to point out the fallacy of the logic, albeit hamfistedly.

RetroDad · 18/07/2012 00:15

@Kleptronic

Your taking it too far. He had 2 sips. I felt bad. He has had nothing of the ilk since. Neither am I giving him sex ed lessons. I'm just using it as an example where by education is used to make children think and act more responsibly. But the significance of a 0.0% beer just had me thinking, well, why shouldn't a child less then 10 be able to drink it. That's all.

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Kleptronic · 18/07/2012 00:26

Apologies again, x-post, but you have still been U - I note you have owned you felt bad about it! De nada, there's worse things, but it can't be argued good, in my entirely subjective and hamfisted opinion...just don't give the nipper the chocolate cigs is all :P

aviatrix · 18/07/2012 00:33

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