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to have stopped doing his laundry?

43 replies

LeggyBlondeNE · 17/07/2012 13:14

Yes, another laundry thread, but he actually suggested I ask to find out who is the unreasonable one...! I'll try and get background in because it's probably relevant to my recent response to our conflict, but skip to the end if you don't want to read it all!

Long term background: when we first moved in together (or actually, started spending more than just weekends together at my/our first house) we agreed that I would cook and he would clean. However, although previously we both did our own and the other's laundry at our respective houses, once he moved into my/our house fulltime, he stopped doing any at all which annoyed me slightly but wasn't a huge deal.

Several months later: baby arrived, all went to chaos, we got a cleaner. I eventually started cooking again, he rarely cleaned. He still never did laundry and I found doing it all, plus baby-vomit-bibs/clothes and nappies quite a strain with a clingy baby.

Now: cleaner's back went and she quit, we don't yet have a new one. I get home from work first and cook every day, often with a tired whingy toddler on my hip/clinging to my legs before he gets home from work. He'll do the kitchen when I point out that it's too disgusting/short on pans for me to cook tomorrow or sometimes just when he gets around to it. The surfaces have honestly not been properly clean in about a month. We both contribute to tidying the rest of the house.

The problem: I resentfully still do most of the laundry (hers and mine is fine, his I don't like doing) but have been pointing out for ages that he doesn't tend to put his clothes away and I have no intention of doing so when I have enough of mine and child's to do.

On three occassions I have said that if he doesn't get his clothes out of the clean-clothes basket so I can use it again/separate clean from dirty on the floor so I don't have to wash things twice, I will stop doing his laundry. Final warnings have been required.

On the fourth time he'd left clean clothes I'd washed and sorted for him in the basket, I just stopped. He didn't notice for a while because his mother came to visit while I was away and did all his laundry for him. When he did eventually notice he told me I was unreasonable not to give a final warning as I had before. I said that my policy was clear and he should respect me enough to notice my efforts and at least put the clothes away. When I most recently asked for hte basket as I needed it to empty the washing machine, he wanted to know if the load included any of his, as why should he make it available otherwise.

So ... who is being unreasonable? I'm feeling like a domestic servant (serve him food daily, been expected to do his laundry despite total lack of acknowledgement of it from him) and pretty sick of it.

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StuntGirl · 17/07/2012 20:43

Yanbu. He is.

I hate grown men who can't pull their bloody weight Angry

RichTeas · 17/07/2012 21:20

If you're doing the laundry anyway, it's a bit miserable to not do his. Although you have a lot of NBU responses, you should think about how your attitude will be interpreted by your DH. If he's working 15 miles away that's probably an hour less free time he has per day, 5 hours a week. Surely you could bung in an extra load or two of wash for him.

HecateHarshPants · 17/07/2012 21:36

Don't look at the laundry. Look at what you both contribute to the running of the family. Big picture.

Who cleans? Who cooks? Who brings in the money? Who does the budgeting? Who drives? Who shops? Who does the childcare? Who does how much of each?

An individual job within all that is not as important as looking at it as a whole, each element with value and importance and working out if each of you is contributing the same.

That doesn't mean that you each bring in half the money, each do half the laundry, each do half the cooking.

Think of it in terms of a working week. Are your working weeks the same? If not, then whoever is doing less needs to do more.

redwhiteandblueeyedsusan · 17/07/2012 22:41

well, that hour he is travelling, the op looks after the children and tries to cook tea.

if your oh is responsible for cleaning the kitchen, but doesn't do it and you need to clean it before you can cook... just do dsomething for the dc and yourself and be too tired to cook properly after cleaning up as well.

creativepebble · 17/07/2012 22:50

YANBU
I do all the laundry but I don't put his away, I just leave it in piles. My dh is old enough to put his away and I have enough to do with the children.
We has the 'laundry fairy' row recently and I kicked off.

holyfishnets · 17/07/2012 22:51

Well there is hardly any difference in how far away you work. 2 and 15 miles are not too different really. It's not like he commutes each way for an hour and a half.

You clearly don't enjoy doing the laundry and neither does he. So, hes a grown man and can do his own laundry. No big deal.

Also if you are cooking each day, he really must clean up the kitchen before bedtime. It's awful starting a new day with lots of kitchen mess.

holyfishnets · 17/07/2012 22:51

Can you work it so you both have the same amount of free time?

zipzap · 17/07/2012 23:30

how were the chores shared out between his parents and him/any siblings when he was young?

If his mother took charge of doing all the laundry/cleaning/etc and all his dad did was take out the bins then mow the grass and think that he'd done his fair share then maybe your dh is assuming that this convenient way of things happening would magically continue for him when he moved in with you...

Even more conveniently deliberately forgetting that you work full time and his mum didn't perhaps...?

In which case it is time to sit down with him and point out that you are not his mother with cocklodger benefits nor his personal slave/valet/servant, you are his beloved partner and that you can't understand why he feels he is more important than you and deserves more free time that you ...

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/07/2012 00:04

His mother still does his washing so I bet his DF was a lazy arse traditionalist as well.

AdoraBell · 18/07/2012 00:34

Get a second laundry basket. Use this for the laundry you are preppared to do, léave him to get on with his laundry.

IsItSummer · 18/07/2012 09:02

Have been in a similar situation for years. There are millions of us out there. Nothing will change, not in the longer term - sorry to be a pessimist. You have to ask yourself whether life's better with or without him. If it's with him, then you have no ultimate sanctions and if you want a half civilised life you just have to get on with it, for your own peace of mind. These men like to think of themselves as 21st century 'new' men but there's usually a very deep-seated subconscious voice, which of course they deny, telling them that housework just isn't their job. My DH takes me out for nice meals, he mows the lawn (when I nag him) he washes up and he's good looking. And he adores me. We love each other. Have eventually got things in perspective and settled for that.

Bunbaker · 18/07/2012 09:14

"We have separate washing baskets and I do mine, he does his"

I agree with NannyOgg. I find that a bit odd and very impractical. I sort the washing out into colours. It would take a few weeks to make up a dark load if I left OH's clothes out. Loading a washing machine isn't an onerous chore anyway, but OH does his own ironing and puts his own clothes away. I just dump his clean clothes on his side of the bed and leave them for him.

As for not cleaning the kitchen surfaces I think that is just yuck! In our house I cook and OH washes up/loads the dishwasher. If he didn't pull his weight then I wouldn't cook for him - end of.

PurplePidjin · 18/07/2012 09:17

I don't nag, and have told dp i think it's patronising (he works, i don't)

First, i ask nicely a coupke of times. Then, anything i need him to sort gets dumped in a big pile either on his end of the sofa or his side of the bed (ensuring it doesn't affect my side) That way it gets dealt with before he can sit down/sleep.

He needs to finish putting up some shelves so i can move some books. I have reminded him a couple of times over the last few weeks. Next step will be to transfer the books to a box on his favourite seat...

LeggyBlondeNE · 18/07/2012 10:28

I HAVE A CLEAN KITCHEN!!!!!!! And he didn't even sulk when I refused to come and entertain him while he did it!

Ahem. Small victories and all...! ;-)

Some v good points made - his mother didn't work, and even when she was back at work I think she still did more chores than the boys/her DH. One of my BILs currently lives at home (aged 30) and does precisely nothing.

Also, it's very easy not to do his washing as I sort things into colour piles anyway so only need enough of his to make up each load and his are often not even in the dirty laundry basket to begin with (often on the floor getting mixed up with clean clothes that have been dumped out of the clean-basket!)

Anyway, he's gone off for a couple of days and I shall spend one evening getting the house all lovely and tidy and everything out of the way and then take it as a fresh start.

IsItSummer - if we all just fatalistically accept it, then surely nothing will ever improve for our daughters and grandaughters?

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ChickensHaveNoLips · 18/07/2012 10:42

Ok. The kitchen thing would piss me off, majorly. But I'm missing something about the laundry I think. I do all the washing here, but DH tends to do most of the ironing. I just bung it in the machine, add powder and press start. Then I either hang it out or tumble it. It takes minutes. So is the whole process from 'dropped on floor' to 'ironed and put away' he expects you to do? Or are you just objecting to bunging his clothes in the machine? The first would get me all raging and frothy, the second wouldn't iyswim. If anyone leaves dirty washing anywhere but the basket, it doesn't get washed in this house. Clean washing is put in piles on respective beds. I wash most days, but then I have two DS's and a skanky bog snorkelling dog. But maybe washing just isn't my 'thing'. My 'thing' is bathrooms. I fucking hate cleaning the bathroom and get very twitchy if I do clean it and then someone leaves toothpaste spit in the basin

boneyjonesy · 18/07/2012 10:47

I actiually think it is a bit petty to do yours and your baby's clothes and not his.But he should do something else instead

IsItSummer · 18/07/2012 11:02

I didn't accept it, for a very long time, but it gets to a point where you've had these conversations hundreds of times, nothing really changes, and unless you actually want to split up, you compromise. We have 2 boys and I am making damn sure they do loads of chores and so my future DILs won't be able to join in these threads!

LeggyBlondeNE · 18/07/2012 11:16

Chickens - it's the former, which I think he thinks is equal to him taking the bin out. I have no problem gathering washing and putting it in the machine actually. It's the putting it all out on the dryer/radiators, going round collecting it up again, folding it, sorting it into piles, and putting it away in various places which takes the time and which I hate. And no one irons! Since we moved into this house and I started back at work, I no longer know what his drawers-system is (not that I think he has one with the new furniture) and I don't have the time to meander round upstairs with baby in the sling (she won't fit for starters) putting things away. So I made it clear ages ago that if he couldn't even register when I'd done some laundry and put his own clothes away then I wasn't going to put in the effort to launder them anymore. Which I think he found fair enough, but it was the lack of a fourth warning that he objected to!

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