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to think it's reaching the end of the line for this friendship?

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emeraldgirl1 · 16/07/2012 10:49

This is an old friend (almost 20 years) so in some ways we're more like sisters and the thought of not having her in my life at all is a hard one.
BUT - in pretty much every way you can imagine she is what I suppose you'd call a 'toxic' friend. The basic problem is that she's one of those people who's managed to get so wrapped up in her own problems that she never - and I mean NEVER - has any time or even interest in other people's. Have supported her through (v nasty) divorce and endless romantic troubles over the years but it is just occurring to me how staggeringly uninterested she is in any of my own troubles. DH was redundant couple of years ago and even though I specifically said to her that I'd love her support even if just a whinge on the phone (I am bad at asking for support so was unusual for me to ask this), she could not have been less interested - changed the subject when I brought it up and never asked how job search was going etc. There are countless other examples of her lack of interest, even just in normal things and issues that other friends express interest in like my job, my in-laws etc.

Recently a close family member has gone into hospital for a very big op and my friend again could not have been less interested. She didn't even 'know' he was having the op, even though I've mentioned it a dozen or more times over the past year. She hasn't texted once to see how it went, and when we have spoken over the last few days and I've mentioned that I'm dropping by the hospital or whatever, she hasn't even thought to ask, "oh, how did it go?'

When we spend time together ALL we talk about is her and her latest drama. I was happy to do this while she was going through awful divorce but honestly it has always been this way even before the divorce and it is carrying on long after. It is getting hard to summon any energy to call her or meet up because I feel as if I am just being used for my (amateur!!!) counselling skills.

I don't want to do anything drastic like 'end' the friendship but I just don't know if I can carry on with the charade that we are somehow friends when she really knows nothing about my life and never asks.

But we are very wrapped up in each other's lives (through family etc) and so if I start to withdraw she is going to notice - unsurprisingly she is the kind of person who is going to get VERY upset and offended if I am not putting in the kind of time and effort she has come to expect.

Oh, and yes, I am a wimp about these things and just prefer to get along Blush

But I am really getting fed up these last few months and any advice would be appreciated!!

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Mrsjay · 16/07/2012 10:52

I am just wondering if she is my friend too Hmm I have a friend like this I have let it fizzle out I was upset about it a few months ago I posted about it and got a kick up the bum from mumsnetters Grin You friend doesnt want a friend she wants somebody to chase about after her, you get people like that , let it go dont be interested in her life so much she will get bored and probably phase you out, Just change the subject when she starts banging on about herself

chunkyjojo · 16/07/2012 10:54

Well OP, if you don't want to end the friendship or "withdraw" then I'd suggest you're only left with a couple of options: put up with it and carry on feeling fed up, or tell her that you feel the friendship has become very one sided and that you are hurt by her lack of interest in you and yours.

Its all very well to say you just want to get along but its winding you up and making you feel used and resentful. Personally I'd become a lot less available and if she notices or asks then that's your opportunity to say why.

emeraldgirl1 · 16/07/2012 10:55

mrsjay I definitely need a kick up the bum too! Where better than MN?!

How did you let it fizzle out, can I ask?

Hadn't thought about changing the subject when she starts banging on - is good advice - of course the problem is that when she isn't talking about herself we have VERY little to talk about! I know I've allowed myself to be sucked in to only talking about her and this is partly cos I'm aware we have nothing else to talk about!! Crazy and stupid, I know...

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Pseudo341 · 16/07/2012 10:56

I think you've answered your own question really, it's time to get rid of her. I did drop a friend for the same reason several years ago, I just stopped answering the phone to her and eventually she gave up. I felt horrible at the time but I just found her so draining. A freindship like this is a tricky thing to get out of, but I suggest you just start being very busy and unavailable. If she brings the subject up you can start listing all your problems that you've got in your own life as a reason why you've got no time for her. It's difficult and it will take time but you can do it, be strong!

Mrsjay · 16/07/2012 10:57

It was a bit easier I dont see her very often your friend is around and about, I just stopped listening to her drama everytime i phoned or saw her it was something else, I just used to listen for a while and then just change the subject she got bored of me i think and we havnt spoken for a while she will text now and again it is Sad because i do like her but I realised it was all about her she just wasnt interested in anybody else,

emeraldgirl1 · 16/07/2012 10:57

chunkyjojo thanks, good advice. I think I do see this as probably my only option. I wish I wasn't such a coward and could just say these kind of things upfront. Thing is I do have lots of nice friends that I am much more able to be honest with, but this partic friend has a way of making me more of a craven wimp than I should be! She is VERY difficult to say 'no' to. tbh it is a pattern I have noticed over the years with her and her other friends - they tend to fall by the wayside after a few years as she really is very demanding and high maintenance.

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Bossybritches22 · 16/07/2012 11:00

Yes just gradually make yourself unavailable for long chats, cut off her rants & make it about you or general stuff then

"oops look at the time got to go! Lovely to catch up"

Leave the answerphone on & reduce the amount & length of calls people like this are draining & bad for YOUR mental health!

chunkyjojo · 16/07/2012 11:01

Emerald sounds like other friends have used the withdrawal method effectively then {smile}so give it a shot and that should hopefully get rid of her! Lifes too short for people who make you feel used and unimportant

emeraldgirl1 · 16/07/2012 11:10

bossybritches (i do like your name!) do you know it had never occurred to me but I do think that if I didn't listen to her rants and changed the subject she would quite quickly get bored of me! And maybe withdraw herself!

Have noticed (and think this is reason for me getting to point of no return) that since she has been back at work (last month of so) she has been suddenly very rubbish indeed about returning calls etc. I've had to carve time out of a ridiculously busy job over the years to make time I don't really have for her and then within weeks of going back to work, she's suddenly not even able to return a text!! (am relieved at lessening of pressure, but still think it's an insult IYSWIM, after all the time I've manufactured for her over the years!)

So yes I do think it may be that if I am just not quite so enthralled by details of her life she may well lose interest...

chunkyjojo the withdrawal method!!! Made me smile!

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emeraldgirl1 · 16/07/2012 11:13

oh and psuedo341 - I've been trying the not answering phone trick on and off for a while but I eventually cave when she phones four times in one afternoon and I think maybe she's got some kind of emergency

It's good advice though!!

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Mrsjay · 16/07/2012 12:14

emerald my friend did this with other friendsshe would make friends easy and then they always seemed to fall away from her after a while I think people just get fed up with the selfishness and the drama,

emeraldgirl1 · 16/07/2012 12:17

mrsjay I do wonder if it might be the same person!!!

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