to think the school prize draw shouldn't be fixed like this?

[anklebitersmum]

Watched the FOS posse drawing out the tickets, reading the names and then putting them back on more than one occasion. Not only that but they were discussing who got what. No set list from what I gathered, just oooh she can have this/that. Providing they got past being put back in the bucket that is

I have tried to reconcile what I witnessed but there really is no plausible excuse for what they were doing as far as I can see and now I'm torn as regards drawing attention to it versus the damage it could do as regards fundraising.. WWYD?

PomBear, does that mean is might be a bit of a reversal of your OFRS?? (Watching zombies thread too )

Don't see how things like that will change if people like you DON'T join PTA.

If you think there is a problem maybe actually try and do something rather than random unhelpful whining?

I also want to know what FOS is........

It'll be what the PTA are called. Friends of School or something.

If they were friends or relatives they were pulling out who weren't there, then there's nothing wrong in making a decision what prize to allocate. Are you saying that the prizewinners were there and the FOS still decided which prize to allocate?

At my DSs school the people who were picking put some back and I could hear that it was their families tickets who had already won a prize so nothing sinister going on there, it could be the same thing.

The prize selection thing seems odd, we either let people pick themselves or do a number on each of the prizes and they automatically get that prize.

yes LeeCoakley it's the PTA equivalent, and yes, people were there..me included and I gave my prize back as I'd seen what was going on and wasn't happy.

I don't think I'm randomly whining..I think honesty is something that's in short supply now-a-days and I was stupidly asking what a non-local group of Mums with nothing to lose or gain would think. My mistake

after a PTA after school event was cut short by heavy snow I was involved in a draw that "could" have been viewed a bit like you view yours.

Tickets were drawn the following morning. People who had named their ticket or left their counterfoil with a PTA volunteer were allocated a suitable prize if their ticket was drawn. So children were not given alcohol, year 6's were not given colouring books ( unless they had little sisters) unkown ticket holders were allocated a generic prize suitable for any age.( biscuits/ soft drinks/ mugs). The few bottles of wine went to the first few adult named tickets to be drawn.

It wasn't perfect, but it was lot simpler than rescheduling the draw to the last afternoon of term at a school where 30 percent of children travel on a school bus and a bunch more are collected by childminders. At least the way we did it prizes could be sent home with the children.

Maybe I do sound whiney and unreasonable
Thing is I'm not unreasonable, I get that circumstances can dictate how events happen..I just genuinely have difficulty reconciling what I saw and heard with what I expected from these people (maybe there-in lies the real issue?)

I think I would email the chair and copy in the head stating exactly what you saw factually in detail. High light what went on and explain how it should be done.

cheers holyfishnets, don't want/need the aggro but genuinely a bit lot what? about this :(

It's dodgy no point pretending otherwise.

We had something a bit like this at my school recently. Loads of staff bought tickets but didn't go to the fundraiser.

It was a very swanky raffle with loads of prizes, every time a member of staff who wasnt there won someone put aside a bottle of wine for them. The next day at school the staff were all given the bottles of wine. Sounds good right, after all who doesn't like wine?

Well... We were there, and won twice (there were A LOT of prizes), we walked away with a £50 voucher for a local butcher and an expensive family board game. (other people won other vouchers, a wii etc.. Etc... The things we won were not first place).

That's just wrong isn't it?

Sarcalogos, do you mean that staff who weren't there just got wine, but people who were actually there could choose better (more valuable) prizes?

I once made a terrible mistake when drawing a raffle, there were three prizes, and I announced them in reverse order, so the first ticket out got 3rd prize. They mentioned to me afterwards that they had thought they'd won the bigger one, in a friendly way, and at the time I thought it's no big deal, but in retrospect I can see it was just not right.

Yes that is what I mean.

thank you, I see how mistakes are made..this was in my opinion no mistake. Cheers guys, thought I was a dying breed

Your right, that is cheating.

you are right.

Although one has to remember that perception of "value" of a prize will vary. someone who lives locally may rate a £20 voucher for a local shop rather higher than someone who lives out of area and doesn't use that shop.
A vegetarian won't value a meat voucher, a teetotaller won't value a bottle of wine....

thank you choccyp1g
UniS you sound like me on a normal day