to think that the BBC owe Virginia Wade an apology..

[cocoachannel]

..for the repeated references to Murray being 'Britain's first Wimbledon finalist' in 74 years'?

England is not Britain ...holds yellow rain coats hand in Celtic solidarity

I'm Scottish and I know the significance of 1966. It's almost impossible to avoid the fact, even north of the border.

There's no tartan bubble that keeps us blissfully unaware of such facts!

Ive just asked my Scottish 14 year old if she knows the significance of 1966 in British sport, and she does.

I remember watching Virginia Wade winning Wimbledon in 1977. I was 12 years old and had the good fortune to be off sick from school that day (was it not on a Saturday back then or does my memory fail me?). Wonderful atmosphere, I still remember it to this day.

1966 - how could that fail to be in anyone's head whether you follow football or absolutely don't!

I think yellow rain coat was pointing out that Britain didn't win anything, England did!

I thought she was from S Africa or Rhodesia... or somewhere in Africa. No?

Ah, ok, - slow on the uptake -.

I'm going to regain from commenting more, cos I'll just get myself in trouble.

Suffice to say, I don't have any issue with the English world cup win being described as a major event in British sport. It's not as if we're likely to win it anytime ever!

Puppy panic - back then, the Ladies' Final was on Friday and the Men's on Saturday. They only went over to Sunday if there was too much rain to finish on Saturday.

Thank you Rusty!

Virginia Wade was from here but lived in SA for 14 years.

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No mention of VW
And absolutely no mention of Jamie, which is truly disgusting.
I don't think his winning the mixed as been mentioned once

Jeremy Bates & Jo Durie won the Mixed Doubles in 1987 - no mention of him either.

So they did, the Beeb need a new statistics book.

Oh I see, England won the world cup. Why you English never mention that every time you get near a football.

England. Not Britain.

Of course Scotland don't stand a chance of ever winning. But if we did, would the English bang on about it every time we played football?

Do the Scottish bang on about the English world cup win?

Well, okay, yes, but only to complain about the English 'banging on about it'.

But I bet you a higher percentage of English would root for Scotland that Scottish rooting for England. The whole 'anyone but England' thing is so petty and the only thing it achieves is to get people's backs up and generate an anti-Scotland feeling among what is the majority of the uk's population.

Oh I see, England won the world cup. Why you English never mention that every time you get near a football.
This is because they are now cr*p and couldn't score if the goal was the whole width of the pitch the teams play as separate nations rather than one. And at the risk of digressing - wasn't England's last goal in 1966 contentious, so they shouldn't have won?

I don't doubt that if Andy Murray was English that the BBC and the papers would conveniently forget the British bit.

And another thing [going into rant mode here] although hawkeye is good, and there are moves to introduce similar technology into football, we were taught at school that it was sporting to accept the referee's/umpire's decision. Was it McEnroe who changed all that?

BTW I'm English/British, but grew up in Wales.

Errm didn't Scotland qualify for the 2008 European Cup and England failed to make it? So the English fans had to root for Scotland then.

I find the statement about it being the most important thing to happen in British sport bizarrer. Countless reasons why that is daft, but for starters; Rugby Union world cup 2003, Ashes 2005/10, the Barcelona Olympics spring to mind (first one I really watched), later Kelly Holmes, Tammy Grey-Thompson...

And that's just a few from the sports I like.

I feel so sorry for Jo Durie and Jeremy Bates as they are also getting overlooked.

Yes, LaVolcan and lots of us did!

Fred Perry was the last British man to win the mens singles in 1936. Henry Austin (Known as 'Bunny') was the last Brit to get through to the mens singles finals in 1938 but he did not win. There have also been several mixed doubles wins including Jamie Murray, Andy's brother.

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and jamie murray being overlooked
and the current doubles from GB being overlooked.

It was the first male finalist they were banging on about when I was watching last night, which is factually correct, but imo it perpetuates the opinion that the men's game IS Wimbledon and that everything else is just a side-show, and therefore less important in terms of kudos and remuneration.

in fact the doubles are pretty exciting. and very fast, and you think they are out, but then remember, it is doubles,

Lackadaisical, unfortunately the men's game is all that most people want to watch, I had women's final tickets to allocate to members of my workplace last year, no one wanted them, I didn't have any trouble giving away the men's semi final tickets.