Copyright

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AIBU to think that by the time students are under graduates that they should be aware that you cannot lift text or images from a website and use it in their own online presentations without the written permission of the owner of said work and that if permission is denied then the material should not be used.

Also AIBU to think that lecturers / professors of these students should be asking to see proof of permission to use material/images that has a copyright mark on it

YANBU!

So many people don't take copyright seriously though :(

YANBU. I was flabbergasted this year when another student, in all seriousness, told me that the best way to write essays was to C&P chunks of text and stitch them together ... Even better, one of our other students then raised merry hell that the school didn't provide free plagiarism software to students to check their work.

Frankly, having written my essays myself and not copied and pasted, I know damn well where I need to add references to my work. I was when we had this conversation.

Btw, these were postgrads.

YANBU - with the addition that you don't need a copyright mark on it - copyright is yours for your work and you don't need to label it.

What annoys me is that the students don't appear to get penalised / punished for their 'theft'.

When I was at school you would have failed the course. I just seem that these days it is a case of 'oh dear, never mind'

I thought there was some software universities use which filters the text and matches it with whatever's out there on the interweb, to stop this happening? DIL (student) was telling me something about it - will quiz her.

you have to seek permission to "left" images of anything - text or images e.g. photographs. You may well be given permission and asked to reference and give credit - but without permission you are breaking copyright rules

EndangeredOtter - unfortunately, you have been incorrectly informed. If you give credit but haven't sort and obtained permission you are infringing someones copyright.

If the work is creative commons you just have to credit it, you don't have to ask for specific permission.

Unfortunately, fireice many students and big companies are copying anything they like regardless.

My website prominently show it has a strict copyright policy and yet still students, journalists, travel agencies, airlines etc. will copy text and images.

hassled it is called Turnitin. Not sure whether it checks that people have permission for images.

"In the United Kingdom and many other Commonwealth countries, a similar notion of fair dealing was established by the courts or through legislation. The concept is sometimes not well defined."

Might some of these cases not count as fair use?

Fair Use doesn't apply if you are making money out of the material that you have copied.

Also not applicable if you are passing the material off as your own with no reference to the original source.

Fair Use only applies to a few sentences not to an entire page or in some cases a whole website.

My uni is very strict about plagarism. We are throughly taught what counts. Not even allowed to self plagarize. Everywhere is different I guess.

There's a difference between plagiarism and using someone else's words / ideas / images but citing the source.

In very basic terms
Plagiarism is using someone else's work and passing it off as your own. If students get caught doing this they are given a warning and fail the module. If they do it again, they fail the course.

Quotation / use of images and charts and citation is encouraged as it shows that the ideas of the student are supported by other writers and researchers.

So long as the work isn't being published and the student isn't going to make money from the work then there's no need to get permission for use of the work. Was the online presentation openly available or was this something that should have been restricted to use only within the module? It sounds like it's something that should be for internal use only but someone has made a mistake. I'd write to the department who set the assignment and ask that in future the presentations are kept for internal use only.

FWIW I teach students about this stuff in a university.

The best bit is when the students are so lazy they don't even notice the name of the person who wrote the stuff they are copying .... Who is actually the person marking their work.

in some cases a whole website.

There's a company in a foreign place poland that has nicked our company website, even down to the images of our staff. We were like

Cockwomble were you able to get them shut down?