To expect the babysitter to notice that DS has a temperature?

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I knew immediately from his face.
He had been lying on the couch watching tv for 2 hours
He was on fire
She knows him really well. She's his keyworker at nursery
She knows he never keeps still.

She told me he was shattered

Yes I probably am being unreasonable, but if you are a trained professional and you know the child really well, surely you should spot the signs?

how old is the child?

Oh!
4.5

not unless he had been complaining

a younger child, maybe, but an older one, I would have expected to say he was feeling unwell

Praps he wasn't feeling under the weather, and lolling on a couch is what kids do at the end of the day, isn't it. He will be different at home to the setting.

YAB a bit U

Was it a particularly high temp?

Was your child complaining of feeling hot/in pain/ill and she didnt' do anything about it?

Simply having a raised temperature isn't always a cause for concern and not even always a reason/need to medicate.

At 4.5 I'd say she probably listened to the child?

39.2

I think I am being U
I know he doesn't loll in the couch when he comes in, but how could she know that?

The first thing he said to ne was that he felt ill, but he maybe didn't say anything to her

Maybe he did and she said "Aww, why don't you lie down on the couch?"

Honestly, there's not always a need to medicate a high temp (depending on how high obviously) if the child is otherwise ok.

And feeling a bit ill and lethargic, is par for the course really.

Perhaps the reason he was lying in front of the tele for 2 hours, was because she noticed he was a bit off ?

No i don't mind him being in front of the telly, I just meant that it's very unusual for him to sit/lie still for that long

I dont think she equated him being unusually quiet and still with being sick.
She just thought he was tired.
If he mentioned being ill to her, or she thought he was ill, surely she should have mentioned it

well he's fine this morning
and I spoke to her and she said, yes he didn't seem his usual self, didn't tell her he felt ill
It's fine, I trust her

I guess that I would notice more maybe because I would touch, hug, cuddle him more.
I knew from his face that it was more than tiredness, and as soon as I hugged/kissed him I could feel he was really hot

She's not going to do that

what would want to do it if he if ill?
call you home?

give calpol ?
call dr?

maybe you should tell what you expect?

it's not really about what she should do
It's about whether she noticed

I don't randomly give specific instructions to babysitters on what to do if he gets ill
Does anyone?

yes my employers do ?

so, you get a list of what to do if they have temperature, how high, or what to do if coughing, or sick.
really?

I think she should have noticed. I think temperatures are easy to miss by carers who don't really give a shit, quite frankly. But good ones will be on to it like a heat-seeking missile.

well yes i get told call me i will come back if kids are sick (they are on night out)

or if call dr if you think you need to ( i am at work and cant come home)

I would never give capol with out being told too as it to easy to overdose.

so again what would you have wanted her to do.

seriously I would never say to a babysitter, "in the one in a million chance he gets sick, here's what to do in specific situations"

I would just say call me if any problems. I am always contactable unless on the tube.
I would never leave him if he was sick, or I thought he was a bit off colour

Again, it's not about what she would have done, it's about her not noticing
Fact is, she didn't notice

But if she did, I would have liked her to call me and say, DS has a temp would you like me to give him some calpol, or wait until you come home.

If she couldn't get hold of me or DH, I wouldn't have complained if she had used her common sense and given him some calpol. Similarly, if she had chosen not to give it because she wanted to speak to me first, I wouldn't complain.

In her capacity as he key worker, she knows he can have it.

how is it easy to overdose on Calpol? you just read the instructions

But you said in your post at 9:42 , she did notice...

"and she said, yes he didn't seem his usual self"

Not really sure what you are asking us tbh

I can tell immediately when one of my children has a temperature but that's probably because I've learned to recognize when something's not right, given that I take care of him myself. Hope your little boy feels better soon.

Had he been undressed in any way?

I would expect a nursery nurse to begin undressing to cool down a child who was warm to the touch (if I hadn't been able to locate a thermometer0

I don't think nursery workers are legally allowed to babysitter for kids outside of the nusery?

Ours definitely aren't

Probably in case summat like this crops up!

Blimey, things get misconstrued.
My post of 9.42 was talking about the day later when I told her that he had a temp. She didn't notice on the day. Not sure what I'm asking? I'm asking AIBU to have expected the babysitter to recognise that my child has a temp? What's not clear?

Was he undressed? No, she didn't notice he had a temperature!

Betterchoices, yes I think that's it, mums just know
Bejeesus, it is legal, there are rules and regs, we had to sign forms

It's all done and dusted now. I acknowledge the reasons why she didn't realise.
I was just a bit upset at the time