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To have sent an arsey response to this text from my landlord?

59 replies

SpottedGurnard · 26/06/2012 23:47

Backstory: We are moving out next month and I said to the landlord I was ok with showing people around as long as the letting agency emailed me ( I cant answer my phone during the day as I drive for a living) with 24 hrs notice.

Since then I have had the landlord round twice with workmen. The first time they stood in my kitchen for an hour and a half discussing quotes all the while I was waiting to cook my dinner and was starving! The second time was in an evening right as I was packing for a hen do and wanting to get ready ( I didnt feel comfortable getting in the shower while they were here, my house is very small).

So last week I had a message from the letting agency that I picked up at 4.30 saying they have arranged a viewing for the next day at 1.30. I sent back an email saying no, this is not ok. It was not 24 hrs notice and me and dp were both away on hen and stag all weekend so couldnt let them in.

Yesterday they emailed at 4.30 saying could they arrange a viewing for between 3.30 and 4. I said ok and arranged to be around then. Got a call at 3 askong where I was as they were at the door.

I have just had an email from my landlord asking if I can contact the letting agency as the people from sat still want to look around.

I said

  1. I will not contact them. If they want to arrange a viewing they can contact me.
  1. I spoke to them today and they didnt mention it so I dont understand why they have sent this message through the landlord.

Aibu to just want some fecking peace in my own home?

(I must add Im going through a stressful redindancy, DPs OCD is playing up right now and I just hate the fact I am not able to have some private space)

OP posts:
SpottedGurnard · 26/06/2012 23:49

Sorry it was 12.30 the next day they wanted to show people around, not 1.30.

OP posts:
VegansTasteBetter · 26/06/2012 23:50

yanbu

squeakytoy · 26/06/2012 23:51

I cant understand why driving means you have no means to answer your phone though.. I drive and have to answer calls. I have a satnat which also picks up phone calls in one vehicle and a parrot machine in the other..

If you make yourself difficult to get hold of, then it does cause problems for others.

squeakytoy · 26/06/2012 23:52

and I actually have a satnaV not a satnat...

SpottedGurnard · 27/06/2012 00:08

squeaky- its against my company policy. If I crash whilst on the phone then it's a disciplinary for me.

So no thanks.

OP posts:
SoleSource · 27/06/2012 00:09

YANBU

howdoo · 27/06/2012 00:13

YANBU (and FWIW, I'm a landlord)

SpottedGurnard · 27/06/2012 00:23

Thanks to all saying I am not being unreasonable.

Being sent a messgae at 11.30 at night, telling me to contact the letting agency AND setting a deadline for the viewing to be done has really riled me.

Am struggling to sleep now! I was all relaxes before.

OP posts:
SpottedGurnard · 27/06/2012 00:24

Thanks to all saying I am not being unreasonable.

Being sent a messgae at 11.30 at night, telling me to contact the letting agency AND setting a deadline for the viewing to be done has really riled me.

Am struggling to sleep now! I was all relaxes before.

OP posts:
CrikeyOHare · 27/06/2012 05:05

OP - no, you weren't being unreasonable at all. You may be moving out, but it is still your home and you are entitled to as much privacy in your home as anyone else is. If the agent and/or landlord make a nuisance of themselves, tell them that. And make it clear that if they don't pack it in you'll be refusing any further viewings at all (which you are legally entitled to do, whatever it may say on your lease).

Best thing to do is contact the agent and say "For future reference, I shall allow viewings between 4-6 pm on Wednesdays and Fridays (or whatever). Any other time is inconvenient". And leave it at that.

rainydaysarebad · 27/06/2012 05:13

Yanbu, and after attending a speed awareness course this month it's not surprising how many people crash a car using mobile phones and sat nav equipments. If you crash the car even with hands free it's still am offence and you are breaking the law and so is the company you work for. Learnt that last week.

JumpingThroughHoops · 27/06/2012 05:42

Not everyone wants constant interruptions when driving.

Jenny70 · 27/06/2012 07:12

YANBU

Sounds like letting agency is being disorganised, if you spoke to them that day and they didn't mention the other viewing, either the interested party HADN'T told the letting agency they were still interested (no not 24hrs) OR the letting agency did know and forgot to arrange something.

Their incompetance is not your problem... and tell the LL you will arrange viewing when the agency contacts you (with appropriate notice).

Hebiegebies · 27/06/2012 07:17

Not sure about your landlord, but can I give you Thanks for not answering your phone in the car?

PurplePidjin · 27/06/2012 07:45

Yanbu, and loads of people spend their days unable to answer personal calls so i don't understand all the Hmm faces you're getting!

Teachers, doctors, nurses, call centre workers, carers... Not every job involves a desk and a computer!

CrikeyOHare · 27/06/2012 09:27

SqueakyToy Are you aware that answering the phone when driving is a criminal offence? Frankly, if you do this regularly (no matter what equipment you use) then I hope you get caught before you kill someone. Sorry, but that's massively irresponsible.

vodkaandcaviar · 27/06/2012 09:37

We had a similar issue with our letting agent phoning a couple of hours before wanting to show our flat. She said we didn't have to be there as she would happily show them around but we have a cat and I didn't want him to escape or something so I prefer it if at least one of us can be here. We went on holiday a month ago (two months before flat was due to be re-let) and I emailed her with my friend's details as she was staying in the flat for a week to cat sit. I said if there was an emergency to contact friend's number. We'd literally only taken off when letting agent called friend and said she wanted to have viewers round to the flat a couple of days later. The friend said she wasn't comfortable with it and I was pretty annoyed letting agent had waited until we left. The viewing was cancelled but the day after we got back we had a call saying they needed to show someone around in a couple of hours as they were going on holiday for a fortnight - the flat really needed a good clean as friend isn't the cleanest person so I said no. She's since planned four viewings with us and only two of the couples have showed up. The flat still hasn't been let so no doubt there'll be more.

You're not being unreasonable, can't you tell the landlord that you're only free in the evenings and weekends for viewings? The sooner you have them, the sooner you'll have the place back to yourself once it's been let.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 27/06/2012 09:41

crikey, squeaky has a hands-free, she's allowed to use that.

OP, YANBU. You need to get in touch saying you are quite happy for the house to be available for viewings and you want to do as much as possible to help, but you do need the minimum 24 hours notice and you are quite busy so will not always be free. They seem to have forgotten (or are hoping you won't notice) that it's your home.

PrettyFlyForAWifi · 27/06/2012 09:56

I'm wondering if the landlord is trying to get you to liaise directly with the agency so that the viewings are done at times that suit you and therefore minimise your stress? So it might be a good thing to take it on so you have a bit more control. It shouldn't be interfering with your working day anyway, maybe you need to agree on one form of communication (say email) and use that only. You could also re-clarify your terms (24 hrs notice, viewings when they say and not half an hour in advance etc) so that they are clear on those (cheeky bastards).

I rent out a house and I there's no getting round the fact that this situation is really stressful on tenants (and us) so I usually ask them to say when they want viewings and then block book them on a weekend day or whatever suits. However the rental market is strong where I live so it's easy to do that, you may not be in the same position.

YANBU (especially with the evening calls - that's rude!) but a) the situation's not going to go away and b) there may be ways of making the process easier - but I don't think refusing to communicate with the agency's going to help.

raspberrytipple · 27/06/2012 11:00

YANBU, unfortunately landlords in my experience tend to be dicks. You're leaving the house, all they are worried about now is getting it let so they don't lose pennies, you are no longer a person, you are a pain in the arse to them. I would just be awkward as hell to be honest but then I've had a couple of shit landlords so my view is slightly bias Grin. Current landlord is a gem though, but I have to say that as it's my dad :)

UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 27/06/2012 11:09

YANBU.

I am a landlord and always give tenants 48 hours notice unless it's an emergency repair.

I also give all my tenants a card and a bottle of wine when they move out (if they are good tenants which 99% of them are) to wish them luck.

It is a pain for landlords to coordinate viewings (often prospective tenants are equally prescriptive on when they can view) but that's our JOB!

breadandbutterfly · 27/06/2012 11:26

YANBU. They sound v u.

Treblesallround · 27/06/2012 11:32

I thik YAB(a bit)U. I think you need to be a bit flexible, to be honest. It's not your fault you can't answer the phone during the day, but it's not theirs either. Presumably the landlord wants to get it let asap after you move out or they will be out of pocket. Why not just make sure it's presentable and nothing personal/embarassing on view then let the agent do the viewings while you're out?

Treblesallround · 27/06/2012 11:35

raspberrytipple, we are not all dicks. Sometimes tenants are dicks as well (like our current one who owes 3 months rent, has claimed HB, got it paid direct to him and fucked off with the money),.

There's nothing wrong with wanting the property let asap. We let houses out because we need/want the rent, not because we're altruistic souls who just want to house people.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 27/06/2012 11:39

I don't think the LL are being dicks - they should give 24 hours notice but they may not realize there is a problem, and may have been thinking 'if she minds, she will say so'. That's reasonable IMO.

It depends how they respond now really, doesn't it?