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I can't get out of this, can I?

48 replies

horriblefilagain · 24/06/2012 20:01

We go to the same place on holiday every year (in UK). The first few years, I got roped in to our PILs coming along for a few days, basically I invited them out of politeness after they dropped heavy hints.

They are difficult people. FIL mainly. He drinks, smokes, is irresponsible with our youngest two (holds them unsafely, shoulder carried dd at 13 months with hands in his pockets, has fags then immediately grabs youngest dd who is weeks old and holds her when he's absolutely stinking). He is bad tempered and unpleasant to my DS of 12 who is not my DH's biological child but shows huge favouritism to my DSD,DS has even been asked to to get out of photos so he can take pics of his 'real' grandchildren, and many other things like this. When he is drunk he grabs the youngest two and staggers around with them and has refused to hand them over to DS when they have been crying for them,as they obviously love their big brother v much.

Anyway last year I'd had enough last year and asked DH to tell them that this year we just wanted a quiet holiday without them. I hoped they'd get the message.

Not so. Today they informed us that they are going on a driving tour of the area we holiday in and are going to pop in whilst we are there (they have ascertained dates with dh and kids, we can't really ask the kids to lie about when we're there) and will 'pop in' to say hello for a day or so. The place where we go is very remote and inaccessible in bad weather. I could just about tolerate them for 1 day if I knew for sure they would go away again, although it bugs me a lot that they don't understand this is our family holiday and not a public event they can just drop in on uninvited. I've had PND and was really looking forward to a quiet time and am now dreading it. But if the weather is bad they could get stranded and we could get stuck with them for literally days.

Please if anyone can think of any decent excuses that will not case offence I would appreciate it, feel so down and anxious now. The holiday is in a few weeks.

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DesperatelySeekingPomBears · 25/06/2012 11:24

I could cry for your DS, that must be absolutely awful for him to be told to remove his illegitimate self from your "D"FiL's family photographs. I don't know how you kept your cool during those incidents.

JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 25/06/2012 11:24

a family rift over a holiday? When your FIL treats your son like a piece of crap! No way, no how. Angry

TELL your DH that you wont put up with this any longer and he needs to let his parents know.

horriblefilagain · 25/06/2012 12:18

Hi, dh has spoken to them a few times and they'll be all apologetic but things never improve. Despite knowing they are dicks he still loves them, I feel guilty as if I am driving a wedge between them though I guess its their behaviour that's doing that. I think I will ask him just to say its family time and we don't want visits. They'll know its me and may hate me but who cares, I feel like I hatw them right now...our holidays are such a special time and I shouldnt allow them to ruin them, should i?

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Kitchentiles · 25/06/2012 12:20

You don't have a IL problem, you have a DH problem if he allowed your DS to be elbowed out of the photo like that? What did he say/do?

horriblefilagain · 25/06/2012 12:26

To be fair, dh was furious about photo. It was done quite subtly ie oh, just stand to the side a minute ds, but it was clear why. I told him afterwards and he spoke to them, he is a great dad to ds and treats him just like dad and loves him v much, but his parents never have or will.

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ENormaSnob · 25/06/2012 12:30

A great dad doesn't allow a child to be treated like that.

theboutiquemummy · 25/06/2012 12:31

You need to go to somewhere new. If you want things to change then you are going to have to change first for the sake of your DC, find a new spot tell no one until the last minute and go and discover something new for yourselves that way you wont be looking over your shoulder wonder when the PIL will be turning up to spoil everything.

I agree if it gets difficult then DH needs to say something

LurkingAndLearningForNow · 25/06/2012 12:34

I haven't read the thread but treating your son like that? Angry There is NO QUESTION. You're so much more tolerant than I, I'd refuse to see them again! Angry That's so unforgivable.

SuperScrimper · 25/06/2012 12:34

So did your FIL make an actual comment about wanting a photo of his 'real Grandchildren' or not?

horriblefilagain · 25/06/2012 12:45

No but the fact all the other kids were in pic and when ds tried to step in was told to step back made it pretty obvious....at Xmas and bdays dad gets huge handwritten card from dfil with declarations of how much he loves her and ds gets small card saying love from oils. Often given at same time.

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LurkingAndLearningForNow · 25/06/2012 12:56

Jesus, why aren't you just telling them to fuck off? Your poor son is well and truly old enough to feel excluded. He'll feel even more excluded if you welcome this prick with open arms.

Poor kid. :(

ProfCoxWouldGetIt · 25/06/2012 12:56

Can't you tell the kids you're going to Place A and then actually go to place B, you of course didn't want to tell them where you were actually going as it was a surprise?

sorry I know it's not really helpful, I have the same thing with my In Laws although thankfully they always have 2 big dogs in tow, and I suffer from asthma and allergies so always book a place where we can't have dogs stay.

horriblefilagain · 25/06/2012 13:00

Hmm, maybe we can persuade them to get dogs!! I know, I am usually pretty forthright in cutting people out of my life if they are arseholes and if it was up to me I'd do it but my dh is very torn as he really loves his dad although knows he is a prick...it's very hard. But I think I have enough strength from all of your posts now to at least ask dh to tell him he can't come.

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LurkingAndLearningForNow · 25/06/2012 13:02

At least keep your DS away from him in a way that won't make him feel excluded.

MamaMumra · 25/06/2012 20:57

You have to be really firm about not letting anyone treat your son like that - if Your DS hasn't noticed anything yet, he soon will.
If the reasons you've given here arent enough, you should just insist that you need time alone together and they cannot come! If anyone who treats your child like that, you shouldn't worry too much about their feelings or fall out.

MamaMumra · 25/06/2012 20:59

Your DH doesn't have to cut anyone out of his life but you don't have to subject your son to treatment like that.

LurkingAndLearningForNow · 25/06/2012 20:59

He will have noticed.

MamaMumra · 25/06/2012 21:21

Yes lurking i agree, at 12 he will have noticed Sad
OP No one else will do anything about this except you.

LurkingAndLearningForNow · 25/06/2012 21:23

I would be questioning WHY your DH is okay to put your son through this?

This thread breaks my heart a lot a bit. :(

Inertia · 25/06/2012 22:52
  1. You challenge the dangerous behaviour and remove the child from FIL when he is acting dangerously, or is drunk. Sod offending him, your children's safety is paramount.
  1. You challenge the bloody appalling attitude they are displaying towards your DS. All your children are your family, the ILs don't get to reject the ones they don't want. They either treat everybody fairly, or they don't get to see any of the grandchildren until they learn to be nice to all of them. You and your DH should be backing your DS here, and I wouldn't give a shiny shite about offending FIL and MIL.
  1. Your DH needs to tell his parents that you won't be meeting up on the holiday, you won't be available. Don't get the kids to lie, make last minute changes of plan and then be elsewhere.
Beckyboo4 · 25/06/2012 23:09

I'm sorry but your son is part of the family package and if he was my son if he wasn't allowed in a picture with the other "real " grandchildren then none of my children would be in the picture. I thin a firm word is in order

My MIL favours my first daughter who is her first gandchild and everyone notices it and it absolutely crushes the younger children who ask questions about why hasn't grandma sent me a postacard? why hasn't grandma brought me a gift?. I pulled MIL aside and said treat them all the same or not all , she got the hump and stopped sending anything but I didn't care. I later found out she secretly gives my eldest daughter presents after everytime she visits FFS Favouring one grandchild infront of the other grandchildren is not nice !

LurkingAndLearningForNow · 25/06/2012 23:12

Do some grandparents magically forget how to be parents when their grandchildren come along? Shock

These stories are extremely cruel.

girlywhirly · 26/06/2012 08:58

If nothing is done to stop this now, your son will decide when he's old enough to refuse to come on any family holidays. He will conclude that you don't care about him either. How sad for the younger ones that their nuclear family will be split like this. And don't expect any respect from him, why should he when you have shown him none by allowing the IL's to exclude him the way they do.

Please stand up to the IL's together on this issue. You must present a united front. You hold all the cards, the IL's see all the grandkids or none of them depending on whether they behave in the same way to all of them. It's their choice whether they change their behaviour or not, afaik they cannot legally demand to see them unless they get a court order, and they would get no unsupervised contact because of the drunkenness.

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