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AIBU?

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to expect our sellers to have more than 1 day in the 43 days after we were due to complete to move house

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nannyl · 22/06/2012 13:45

We were supposed to move house yesturday...

short chain, people buying our house as an investment, our sellers moving in with their parents while they choose a new house in that area

anyway as with most moves we were all waiting for 1 form from our buyers which they got yesturday (the day we were due to complete, 2 days after we were due to exchange)

We have had a short break booked in July (combined with a wedding) and made it quite clear when our chain was completed and legal proceedings began AT EASTER that we would not be able to move then

Anyway we didnt move yesturday....
our sellars have said they can move on ONE day (snap bang in the middle of our only weeks holiday this year) or otherwise there are NO DAYS at all that they can / will move until augast

AIBU to think if you are hoping to move house that you should be able to find morw than 1 other free day to move in the 6+ weeks after completion was due, in case, like in most house moves, there is a short delay.

GRRRR

Our buyers are ready to move and now want to complete asap (as do we) and are suggesting that we move out so they can move into ours. (what a nightmare with a 9m old baby), no thanks, iwe only plan to move house once!

They are pressuring us for next week.... which as much as i would love to, is not possible as out sellers cant move then

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drjohnsonscat · 22/06/2012 13:51

I'm not sure I really understand this as I would have thought this was all contractual. But no you are not being unreasonable. I would agree to their day on condition they pay for your cancelled holiday and then we'll see how busy they are.

lopopo · 22/06/2012 13:52

Sorry I don't quite follow. Have you all exchanged?

scrablet · 22/06/2012 13:54

I thought there was a time limit after exchange?

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nannyl · 22/06/2012 13:55

no we havent exchanged (we were supposed to exchange on monday this week)

we were waiting for our buyers to get this form to be able to exchange....

we are now all ready to exchange and agree a date.... and our sellers can / will only move on ONE day before augast.

We cant / wont cancel the holiday.... its combined with a wedding

back in april we wrote on all the forms that we couldnt move then, but can / will move on any other day at all

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nannyl · 22/06/2012 13:56

i dont think there is any time limit between exchange / completion.... or if there is it can be several weeks

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Noqontrol · 22/06/2012 14:02

If you don't are your buyers likely to pull out?

redskyatnight · 22/06/2012 14:02

We exchanged months before we completed. No issue legally.

As you don't know the circumstances of your sellers' I'm not sure how you can complain. Maybe they were assuming that the moving date would be earlier and therefore have lots of committments backed up? I don't think 6 weeks to wait is actually that long in the scheme of things. Why can't you just agree to a date in August and exchange?

Jins · 22/06/2012 14:06

We had to say this to be honest. The reason behind it was that everyone in the chain had dragged their heels so long that we ran up into holiday season and neither of us were able to get time off at short notice as cover couldn't be arranged at work.

ENormaSnob · 22/06/2012 14:08

Sounds like your sellers are stalling IMO.

Do you reckon they might pull out?

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nannyl · 22/06/2012 14:08

i hope our buyers dont pull out!!!!!

Reasons for moving asap.....
i have a 9m old who is just learning to move

I have the world most unchild friendly house, and i just really really really want to move before she gets mobile.

i have never seen stairs in a house where its not even possible to get a stair gate, until i lived here!!!!

our new house is so much nicer, and she will actually have floor space to be able to move, once she masters it.

yes we could and probably will have toagree to augast, but i am just cross that our sellers cant find more than 1 single day in July (or rest of June) that they could possibley move

Oh and they didnt want to move earlier.... they were hoping for July and told us they thought June was a bit soon but could do it (this was back in May)

There excuse is they can not find any removal firms avaliable for any other days!!!!!!!!!!

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MsVestibule · 22/06/2012 14:09

If I've understood correctly, it's your buyer (or their solicitor) that have held this up. Therefore, they're hardly in a position now to call the shots regarding the completion date, i.e. asking you to move out now.

Yes, the sellers ABU, but short of you pulling out, there's nothing you can do about it. Bloody English house selling system...

lopopo · 22/06/2012 14:12

6 weeks is quite a long time between exchange and completion but not sure you or you buyers have much choice now really. It's your buyers who have been holding up the chain up until now so they may have to wait a bit themselves. The important thing is to exchange - then everyone is fully committed and no one can pull out. I would just do whatever I can to make this happen quickly and be willing to compromise. (Although I would not cancel my holiday.)

So stressful I know! But you are nearly there!

DontmindifIdo · 22/06/2012 14:13

If they are moving in with family, there's no reason they have to move out on the day they actually complete, so could you suggest that they move out on that day, but you can't complete until a day in the following week? If they can only get a van that day, then that's the day the move out if they don't have an onward chain.

JumpJockey · 22/06/2012 14:25

We had a very similar situation - we sold to FTBs in March last year and were buying from a woman going into rented. Things took a long time from all offers accepted to exchange as our vendors were basically crap - we had to threaten them with pulling out to get them to find various bits of documentation.

However, when it got to exchanging contracts in July our buyers said "We must move house on weekend X in September, when you accepted our offer we decided we wanted to move on this weekend and the next weekend we are both free is in December". The weekend they stated was completely impossible for us for many reasons, we offered them a range about 3 months when we could do it, they stuck like glue. In the end we said Look, if you refuse to move house at any of the enormous number of times possible for us and the lady we're buying from, we will put the house back on the market. (we sold within 7 days to these people). In the end they moved gradually from their flat (a whole 750 yards away!) over a number of weekend evenings after we'd moved out.

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nannyl · 22/06/2012 14:25

thats what we have suggested dontmind....

am waiting to here what they say but not holding breath!

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Mintyy · 22/06/2012 14:31

Surely the estate agents should be negotiating all this for you?

PigletJohn · 22/06/2012 14:56

you say "people buying our house as an investment" so I don't believe they really have to "move in"

maybe it would be slightly more convenient for them, and they are trying it on, think that "inconvenient for them" is important, and "inconvenient for you" is not important.

I'd suggest you ask them to fix a date which will be between two and four weeks after exchange, and ask your agent if he knows any buyers who might be interested in viewing your house in the meantime, on the basis of a quick sale. It should be done through the solicitor, not the agent.

It sounds to me like they are the sort of people who will take advantage, and the more you give in, the more they will want.

Don't know their side of the story, obviously.

PigletJohn · 22/06/2012 14:58

p.s.

You say "back in april we wrote on all the forms that we couldnt move then, but can / will move on any other day at all" so it might be they have chosen that day out of spite. Remind them what you said, and when you said it, and ask them to pick another day.

Staceisace · 22/06/2012 15:34

God this makes me dread buying a house. I don't understand what the issue is - your buyers are buying your house as an 'investment' so won't be living there, right? And your sellers are moving in with their parents - surely it doesn't matter when they move then as their parents and the house will always be available to them? That stuff about a moving van is a pile of crap, there are loads of companies who always have vacancies - I know plenty of people who've booked a moving van at a few days notice but then I guess I live in a big city. It sounds as though maybe a friend or their parents has offered to help them move for free so they're holding out for that.

You're just going to have to try and negotiate. Explain to your buyers that your sellers are being difficult about move in dates, there's nothing more you can do about that. Tell your sellers that you're getting pressure from your buyers to move and are worried about losing them which would result in you not being able to buy theirs (yes?)

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