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To think that dogs are not communal property?

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FreeBirdsFlying · 20/06/2012 14:42

Sorry its another dog related thread but I'm really fucked off with parents letting their children come over to pet my dog without asking. He dosent like being randomly mauled roughly stroked by strangers,and when I say to the children,he dosen't like being petted and you should always ask the owner first,then I'm the grumpy cow with the dog.

I mean you would hardly think its okay for a stranger to hop into your car and check out the interior because they think your car is nice.

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PandaWatch · 20/06/2012 15:44

Barred I'm confused - you're annoyed because parents tell their children not to touch your dog? Confused

QOD · 20/06/2012 15:44

Cory :o

FreeBirdsFlying · 20/06/2012 15:47

As I said in my OP its the parents. Inconsiderate dog owners are,thankfully,getting less common.

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BarredfromhavingStella · 20/06/2012 15:48

No I'm not annoyed at all Hmm I do sometimes get mildly irritated by the hysterical screeches though as they're uncalled for-I tend to smile sweetly & say it's ok, I've fed her today.

Kewcumber · 20/06/2012 15:50

I always tell DS to ask if its ok not because I have any consideration for the dog mind you but because it seem foolish in the extreme to me to assume that a totally strange dog would be fine with my child patting it on the head.

FreeBirdsFlying · 20/06/2012 15:51

Panda Akitas have a bad reputation (thanks to the media),but are no more prone to attack than a jack russel or a poodle. All dogs have the potential to attack. As do all humans tbh.

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PandaWatch · 20/06/2012 15:58

Oh I see what you mean Barred. But we get that with our cavi sometimes so I can't imagine how bad it must be with a bigger dog!

Although I admit to avoiding breeds like akitas and huskies when we're walking our dog because they can be dog-aggressive and we've had a bad experience with a husky and an akita round the corner from us attacked a staffie and then had to be pts because the poor thing's idiot owner had no idea how to properly train it :(

They don't bother me at all if I'm on my own but if you ever see the owner of a little ginger and white cavi detouring to avoid you when you're with your akita - don't take it personally! He's just so little that an akita could swallow him whole if it wanted to!

higgle · 20/06/2012 16:02

YANBU but I must confess that when a little girl barely old enough to walk toddled over to my Staffie, embraced him and smothered him in kisses I was so happy about her parents and her lack of prejudice that I cried with happiness!

PandaWatch · 20/06/2012 16:03

Freebirds the difference is that an akita will do much more damage to you than a jack russell.

But as I've said in my previous post I am wary of them because they are known to be dog-aggressive (as are huskies) and they are big powerful dogs. My dog wouldn't stand a chance against one if it decided to attack. And unfortunately, whilst I hate the term "status dog" they are not infrequently a breed of choice of certain people who want a powerful dog for all the wrong reasons and have no idea how to properly train them.

FreeBirdsFlying · 20/06/2012 16:04

My dog was terrified by an agressive cavi the other day. Crap owner would only bleat *naughty bosco. Bloody dog was snarling up into my dogs face.

Its just an example of crap owners,not dogs.

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PandaWatch · 20/06/2012 16:04

higgle staffies were my favourite dogs when I was little because I always thought they were really smiley!

PandaWatch · 20/06/2012 16:06

Freebirds if you read my posts properly you'll see I'm not saying other dogs can't be aggressive.

FreeBirdsFlying · 20/06/2012 16:08

But any dog has the potential to be agressive. Small dogs can do a lot of windpipe damage to bigger dogs,its not fair to put the onus on bigger dogs as dogs to be more wary of. Have you ever seen a jack russel attack a rabbit? They could kill a baby in minutes with their agressive shaking and clamping on the windpipe.

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BarredfromhavingStella · 20/06/2012 16:09

I'd let you off panda but you'd not need to worry about her now as she's an old lady bless her.
Fully understand why people are concerned about their children launching themselves at her but if they taught them the correct way to behave in the first place it wouldn't be an issue as they would say 'is it ok to stroke the maneater dog?' & I would reply 'why yes, she loves nothing more than a good fuss & would stand it all day' Grin

FreeBirdsFlying · 20/06/2012 16:11

Im not arguing with you but you've said you are more wary of Akita/huskie type dogs.

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LucieMay · 20/06/2012 16:11

I don't let my son stroke any dog that belongs to someone we don't know. Just too much risk involved.

Ithinkitsjustme · 20/06/2012 16:13

I never allow my daughter to touch a dog that she doesn't know and really hate it when strangers bleat that their dog won't hurt her. I also hate it when dog owners allow their dogs to walk up to my children and lick them etc. even when they are on a lead. It is totally unecessary. My 3 year old is perfectly happy walking past dogs and giving them a wave, thank you, and petting those dogs that we do actually know.

DamselInTornDress · 20/06/2012 16:14

I don't think it's a good idea to be taking a dog that's not child friendly with you on the school run. Confused

Gingefringe · 20/06/2012 16:26

My dog loves to eat poo when we're out (I know, really disgusting habit) so I always have to warn parents that he may give them a nasty smelly lick. That usually puts them off!! Blush

PandaWatch · 20/06/2012 16:27

FreeBirds yes I am because it is characteristic of the breeds to be more dog-aggressive than other breeds because of the purpose they were originally bred for and, like I said, they are big, incredibly powerful dogs. I've seen a few posts in the doghouse from husky owners saying huskies should always be kept on a lead when out because they are dog-aggressive and have bad recall.

I'm not suggesting I would be blase with any dog. And if I was walking and saw an akita with a sign next to her saying " Barred's dog" and therefore knew that she was a friendly akita, I wouldn't be worried. Gah! This is very hard to articulate

glenthebattleostrich · 20/06/2012 16:29

I agree mutual respect is required. My 2 year old is scared of dogs (and cats and rabbits but gets very annoyed that pigeons won't come for a cuddle Hmm.

We are working on it but it doesn't help that some irresponsible idiots think it's perfectly acceptable to let their dogs run all over the place, knocking my not exactly litte and dainty child over. The owners think this is cute behaviour, I don't. Apparently I'm unreasonable or telling them this, or accused of being a dog hater.

I adore dogs by the way, before I moved in with my DH who is allergic I had a german shepherd, a yorkshire terrier and have had various mongrels. My DB has a staffie who I love rolling the floors with, my parents a huge mastif cross and my DSis a boxer. They all know how to behave because they have decent owners, it's not that hard!

Sleepydog · 20/06/2012 16:33

YANBU .

I was sat outside a coffee shop the other day with my lab , she was lying peacefully watching the world go by when a child of around 4 who was going into the cafe stood faced my dog , lifted his hands in air and roared at my dog .

Mother in a pathetic voice ' Dogs dont like being roared at ' my dog turned looked at me as if to say ' WTF ! '

Mother and child would soon moan if my dog ' roared' at them for no reason Grin

D0oinMeCleanin · 20/06/2012 16:44

Akita's, in general, are good with children. T'is in their nature however they are known to be protective of their family, so throwing yourself around the neck of an Akita without first checking with the owners is unwise. Although that goes for any breed. Even the fluffiest of dogs can be aggressive, just ask my fluffy little angel, he'll soon show you that not all cute, fluffy dogs act cute and fluffy.

Saying your are more wary of Akitas than other breeds just because they are Akitas is silliness.

I am still waiting to meet all these dogs who jump on you. In my whole life it's happened twice. One was a puppy and was actually attempting to jump on my puppy but missed and landed on dd2 in the buggy, the owner apologised profusely. Dd2 laughed and then cried when the puppy was removed from her buggy. The other was an esacped and rather horny boxer dog Hmm T'is not fair. I luffs dogs. I wanna be pounced upon by puppies every time it I leave the house. I even moved next to a park, to try and encourage more dogs to jump up on me, it still never happens Angry And I carry dog treats round in pockets and everyfink Sad

I do encounter children running up and petting my dogs without first asking, which is not always wise when I have my terrier with me, although luckily it happens mainly with my Whippet, who is a child magnet. Almost every walk we are accosted by small children wanting to hug her. 95% of them ask first, the other 5% are extremely lucky that she is friendly.

PandaWatch · 20/06/2012 16:52

D0oin if you're referring to me I was talking about being wary of them in terms of my dog, not people (as I said, I wouldn't bat an eyelid if I was on my own). I have heard from owners of akitas that they are dog-aggressive due to their territorial nature and they are fecking huge and very powerful! (I realise I have digressed from the original subject matter of the thread but am trying to explain the earlier point I made, which was intended to put forward a reasonable perspective for why people might avoid one). Quite frankly I couldn't care less if you think that's silly. I care far more about my dog's welfare than I do about what other people think of me.

D0oinMeCleanin · 20/06/2012 16:59

They can be aggressive towards dogs of the same sex if they're not socialised properly, however I tend to find that owners of large or 'dangerous' breeds are more likely to have control over their dog and have socialised it properly.

It's the old folk with their savage little tea cup dogs you need to be wary of.

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