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To think that more needs to be done about the weirdo on my Mums street?

16 replies

TheHouseOnTheCorner · 14/06/2012 12:20

Long story short....my Mum has been harrassed by a man who moved in with a single woman who lives opposite.

The man has sent two suggestive letters to my mum and also to other women in the street....he has flashed another lady and had an agressive rant at a 19 year old man and at my Mum and others over parking.

He has driven the woman who he lives with into a shadow of her old self...her daughters have moved out as he harrassed them. He attacked the womans dog last week and her DD came to remove it...she was in tears and said her Mums house is almost empty as he has sold everything in it. Sad I think she's a victm of DV.

My Mum has complained to the police and as a result of the 3rd complaint the police put a harrasment order on him. He now looks down if he sees my Mum in the street. A neighbour has organised a commuunity meeting with the police as so many of them are having trouble with this awful person. This is happening in a week I think.

I have just been told by a reliable source that this man is a police informant and has done prison time (released just before he moved in with Mums neighbour) for stabbing his then girlfriend in the neck.

She lived...but he cannot now go back to the town he lived in with her and this town is quite local to us. Will the police protect him because he is a police informant?

DO we have to wait until he stabs someone on my Mums street? Havng heard this today I am terrified for my Mum and others....

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TheHouseOnTheCorner · 14/06/2012 12:21

Other neighbours have put in complaints too. This used to be a nice and safe community by the way and all the neighbours are sad and scared now.

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Anypointinseeingdoc · 14/06/2012 12:25

Have you posted about this before?

WorraLiberty · 14/06/2012 12:26

I'd question your 'reliable' source if I were you.

People who are privvy to such sensitive information about police informers, tend not to blab to all and sundry about it.

TheHouseOnTheCorner · 14/06/2012 12:26

I suppose I want to know if there is any advie that people could give me from a legal point? Is there anything the people could do to get him out? It has taken the men in the commuity a lot of strength NOT to simply beat him up....they are all talking about it but won't do it hopefully as it would be wrong...and they'd lose their jobs etc.

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FeakAndWeeble · 14/06/2012 12:28

The police will not protect him because he was or is an informant. The law applies to him as it does anyone else.

Not sure how much you know about harassment orders but they are a civil order similar to ASBOs. Should this man harass your mum again he will have breached that order and that in itself is a criminal offence and he would be arrested.

That's fantastic that the police have agreed to attend a meeting with the residents to discuss everyone's concerns. The problem is that (flashing aside - and what happened about that?) currently he hasn't committed any criminal offences as far as the police know. He is committing civil offences through the harassment. If you suspect DA is going on in the home you can report this but they would need some cooperation from the man's partner to go forward with this.

Wait and see what happens at the meeting before you panic too much. I do sympathise; I had a man living in the flat below me once who had a previous conviction for harassment which led to attempted murder of a female neighbour at his last address. He moved in below me upon his release and began harassing me. Despite his history and the obvious danger he posed to myself and other residents I had to follow procedure, get a harassment order, report when it was breached, and so on. It is incredibl frustrating.

FeakAndWeeble · 14/06/2012 12:29

*incredibly

TheHouseOnTheCorner · 14/06/2012 12:32

It's so worrying...I feel like he's a bomb waiting to go off. I know the woman won't react to the police trying to intervene re DV....a neighbbour has spoken to her and she defends him and says she loves him and he is misunderstood.

The flashing was the only one that was not reported Angry the stupid woman wont report because she says "Oh he'd probably had a drink and I dont wnt to upset x (the partner of the weirdo)

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TheHouseOnTheCorner · 14/06/2012 12:41

Has anyone got any practical advice? Please? Mum has securty alarms on all her doors and windows and a personal alarm too but I think we need to gt her some cameras too....anyone got any advice at all?

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TheHouseOnTheCorner · 14/06/2012 12:46

worra I see your point there but his ex who got stabbed knew his business alright.

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keepcalmandeatcupcakes · 14/06/2012 12:54

Have you built up a diary of events? Times, locations etc? This would eventually help in your case.

scrablet · 14/06/2012 12:56

Ask the police for advice.

TheHouseOnTheCorner · 14/06/2012 13:33

keepcalm they have done a diary thank you for yor input...scrablet the police have been crappy really....despite a number of complaints they failed to even visit or call three of the neighbours back! They told my Mum "Well nobody else has complained" when she first reported...and it was the neighbours who told her that actaually they HAD!

It is the womans house and he has moved in...not council tenants so t's impossible to move them on. I DO feel sad for the woman and think she's being abused.

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quoteunquote · 14/06/2012 17:08

You need to write to your chief constable,

Get your mother , neighbours and any other concerned parties, to write a letter,

Stick to facts,list all the known incidence, ask why this individual is being allowed to terrorise your community, ask what the CC intends to do about the situation, state that you do not feel safe(very important), explain that you do not feel that the police response to this individual has been adequate, finish with a look forward to hearing from you,

mention that you have every confidence that now that now the CC is aware of the situation, he/she will insure that these vulnerable members of community, are no longer subject to unacceptable behaviour from this individual.
keep copies of all letters,

supply the neighbours with the CC, contact information, send all letters recored delivery,

Keep a campaign of letters to the CC, and you should find that each time this individual steps out of line the police response is maximised rather than minimises, the individual hopefully will move on in search of a quite life,

good luck,let us know how you get on.

YesMaam · 14/06/2012 20:23

And what do the council say? Because you were advised on the last thread to contact them because it does not matter that he lives in a private house, they still have duties to the residents of their local government area?

Are any of the complainants council tenants or housing association tenants? because if so they should complain to the council/HA because they have powers to get civil injunctions, and of course the local council has powers (still just about at the moment) to get an ASBO.

This should be dealt with by the local ASB team which includes the local authority and police.

TheHouseOnTheCorner · 14/06/2012 20:48

Maam the neighbours are going to discuss that with the local councilor who luckily has told them all will attend the community meeting and she will, she said help them complain to the council.

I'm not sure about any of the others owning or being tenants but I think one of them is a council tenant...I will tell Mum to check...and will remember that about civil injunctions....maybe the ASB team is who has organsed the meeting? Mum was sketchy abuot it and said something about the local councilor helping with that...she also lives on the estate.

quote I will try...it's hard as Mum doesn't really like to dwell much and now she has her order against him she feels better I think. BUt I fear she's being naive and this man is storing up resentment to the community as a whole. He seems unbalanced and could be just seething away.

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TheHouseOnTheCorner · 14/06/2012 20:49

Maam could you please tell me what a Civil Injunction is exactly?

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