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NKfffffffff897b902X11f54eb6c66 · 13/06/2012 07:31

Im now 53 and my youngest is now 16. And I'm still out of work. I find that every single application I make never gets a reply let alone never an interview. I was a full time teacher for fifteen years but Mr Blairs government started training loads of NQTs which means as Agencies now control the job markets then they only want to register teachers on the bottom of pay scale, straight from college. Then they can make more money from the schools. I cannot be blamed for my experience surely. Nore can this be blamed on the recent resession as I have been trying for well over ten years to get a job. Women who stay at home to be full time mums are TOTALLY ignored by this country. Do not do it unless you are married to a millionaire or a man that can get you a job later on. And if you get on a works program then they will just ignore you because you will have no job seekers entitlements. G4s only get paid to help claimers and not for women that can only claim a pension credit until they are 66. So they ignore you and just cancel your appointment. Being at home means you never see people or network jobs. It's dire. Woman signing on is desperate now. Do not have kids and give up your job or you will remain stuck and forgotten by your country INDEFINATELY. If you have had a similar experience and Are still in this position as me then please get in touch. Bev

OP posts:
toptramp · 14/06/2012 22:33

I got pregnant straight after my PGCE and so I am still looking for a NQT post 5 years on. Luckily the goverment has done away with the 5 year gap thing.
However, I got rejected at an internal interview due to my lack of experience; really shite for women either way. I love my dd but I wish I hadn't got pregnant during my NQT year. :-(

toptramp · 14/06/2012 22:33

I am working in a school as a tutor but the money is shite.

TheFarSide · 14/06/2012 23:50

cory I didn't suggest the job centre set the OP up with work experience.

cory · 14/06/2012 23:54

She does seem to be expecting it though, doesn't she FarSide?

Returntowork · 15/06/2012 07:38

YABU if you are only applying for teaching jobs. Neither my sister nor I have managed to find professional jobs. It is depressing to come to the realisation that your training was for nothing but it is something we have both had to do.

So far I only have a part time job which I hate so I am still job hunting. I understand how much all the rejections and no replies can get you down, I struggle to get interviews.

I agree the job centre is rubbish though. Last time I looked at local jobs on the machines in the job centre they weren't local by my definition. The nearest was 80miles and the furthest a few hundred miles away.

NKfffffffff897b902X11f54eb6c66 · 15/06/2012 07:57

I reckon nothing's changed in our country at all for women who stay at home. We become forgotten. A friends daughter did work experience in a doctors surgery. She said they are answering a constant stream of requests for depression and suicide threats from unemployed people. Stay home mums are now becoming TOP of the list. They are being prescribed anti depressants as this problem is falling onto the doctors shoulders to sort out. And many are not necessarily old.
I reckon most positions of low pay are being offered to males( to stop more riots potentially) whilst woman especially older mums are being asked to stay on the dole without actually saying it. And Academy schools are an idea just to employ cheaper agency staff. And many do in house teacher training for money to build buildings. Bribes. About 50% apparently are training their own staff. To try and shut down Teacher Training Colleges. This is how kids will be forced to learn poems at five. So as of yet my government has not got any answers for me. Do they not want good rounded well behaved children in society? If women who choose to do this job seriously at home on a one to one basis then they should later reinstate these mums back into society.
They do in other countries with good practice. But sadly this country is cutting its own throat. Mums need respect. Period or Fathers the few that will.

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ObiWan · 15/06/2012 08:03

You sound unhinged, and your attitude is extremely off putting.

Has it occurred to you that you are not being employed because you are just not good enough ?

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 15/06/2012 08:12

What a pile of factually inaccurate bollocks

Lovecat · 15/06/2012 08:15

Has Gabby Loggon returned without paragraph spacing?? Confused

abeautifulbutterfly · 15/06/2012 08:47

Slight hijack, but whoever posted the Do-It link - thanks so much - just what I needed to pass on to my mum (looking for voluntary work after retirement)!

As you were :)

AMAZINWOMAN · 15/06/2012 09:02

I have no answer, but YANBU. There is a massive difference between North and South.

Eg in Jaguar, Liverpool they were overwhelmed by job applicants, 1000s had applied for a few jobs in just 24 hours. Of course this is bound to get you down. I really don't think it is like this in the South.

Also you need to factor in travel costs which mean you can be worse off if you apply for jobs on NMW.

lambethlil · 15/06/2012 09:08

OP, please! You may be right, but it's not helping you.

Look after yourself and think about what you can do for you, not the bigger picture.

happygardening · 15/06/2012 10:00

I'm beginning to think that this is a wind up! I an others have made lots of suggestions and the OP keeps churning out the same old comments.
I reckon most positions of low pay are being offered to males
Women of all ages dominate heath care we have an ever increasing ageing population all who are and going to require caring for. There is no north south divide here. OK the money is often crap and its bloody hard work probably much harder physically and emotionally than teaching but its still a job. Look on websites for companies like Bupa Order of St Johns or NHS jobs approach every local care/nursing agencies some will even train you (although in you own time but its still training). It may be not want you want but its money and it a job and that surely has to be a start.

NKfffffffff897b902X11f54eb6c66 · 15/06/2012 10:08

Where and when can I start?

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TheOriginalSteamingNit · 15/06/2012 10:12

For the love of God, OP! Go and bloody find out!

lambethlil · 15/06/2012 10:19

Contact local schools and ask if they take volunteers. Explain that you are a returning teacher with an MA. If you are competant and reliable that will turn in to paid work. Sign on with Supply agencies. Teachers fall sick- even outside of London.

If you get the brush off from both those approaches, then you need to think about how you are coming across.

happygardening · 15/06/2012 10:41

Op can you read?
"Look on websites for companies like Bupa Order of St Johns or NHS jobs approach every local care/nursing agencies"
if you cant read this then may I suggest you should not be a teacher and you need to firstly improve you literacy skills.
Look on the National Trust website they advertise volunteering jobs, look at the website for every senior boarding schools in the UK they advertise positions for house matrons on them you get accommodation often for you your DC's and your DP and I can tell you age is not a barrier for that kind of job none at the school I work in are under 50. Send you CV to every boarding school in the UK re a matrons job obviously having tailored in specifically to that kind of work.
I'm bored now with trying to come up with helpful suggestions for you.

ObiWan · 15/06/2012 10:44

The phrase 'sense of entitlement ' might have been created for people like you OP.

No one is going to point you at a job and say 'here, it's yours'.

Teachers with your passive, and yes, entitled, approach were the ruin of state education in the late eighties and early nineties. Sitting around calculating your pension instead of encouraging ambition and instilling initiative and your students. I guess you can't teach what you don't know.

What is your subject anyway, you seem very reluctant to say.

It might be better for all concerned if you were to retire gracefully, and take up blogging or something.

cory · 15/06/2012 10:56

NKfffffffff897b902X11f54eb6c66 Fri 15-Jun-12 10:08:28
"Where and when can I start?"

You really aren't taking on board anything said on this thread, are you?

It is not for us, or even for the jobcentre, to present you with a career on a plate: it is your job to use your initiative and find opportunities.

Plenty have been suggested: volunteering in schools, tutoring for exams, exam marking, producing IT resources to demonstrate ability in this field. None of these things are going to be advertised down the jobcentre: they are opportunities you have to go and create.

You start by taking the phone off the hook and ringing every single school within commuting distance. Explain that you are a returning teacher and ask if there is any job you could volunteer for. Somewhere there will be something, even if it's only reading with kids.

doggiemumma · 15/06/2012 10:57

gosh, why is everyone being so horrid to the OP?

cory · 15/06/2012 11:02

I'm beginning to agree with whoever it is further up the thread and think this is a wind-up.

And it's working too: reading through my own posts I'm beginning to sound distinctly get-on-your-bike for a staunch Labour supporter. Angry

OP, are you David Cameron? Just working to make us believe that all the unemployed and disabled and terminally ill people you are currently busy screwing over are entitled whiners like the OP? It is quite a subtle approach; far better than the standard flat screen TV one.

happygardening · 15/06/2012 11:12

cory i think your right it must be David cameron!
I consider myself pretty sympathetic to people in the OP's position but the way I starting to think about the OP I beginning to think I make Ghengis Khan look liberal!!

happygardening · 15/06/2012 11:13

I'll be buying the Mail next!

Islandlady · 15/06/2012 12:55

As I said before look at a new career path, as I said before i live in an un employment blackspot but had an interview for a postion at a third of my last salary - guess what today I got the job I was unemployed for 4 weeks and the first two weeks were used helping my dad after my Mum died

So effectivly I was only looking for a job for two weeks and I'm older than you

anotherdayanotherdestiny · 15/06/2012 13:38

OP, why have you refused to answer the question about why you are not tutoring? The demand for tutors far exceeds demand and at £30 an hour you would be able to make a very nice income. Granted, the hours won't be very sociable but if you are prepared to work evenings and weekends you would most likely find yourself very much in demand. I have just googled "tutor agency Warrington" and have come up with loads of them. I suggest that would be a good start.

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