neighbour opposite with no dropped kerb and parking

[annoyednow]

AIBU to be fed up that neighbour put notice on my car when I parked in front of her house with normal kerb. There was no car in their property at the time. They simply took their front wall away and paved their front garden. We still have our front wall and they park in front of our house. I am in London and parking in this area is problematic. No resident parking.

I think it needs to be a dropped kerb at road to be a legal access. Is this correct? There was no parking on my side as one of their cars was parked nearby.

Can they just take the wall away and call it a legal access or do they have to apply to council and drop kerb. TIA.

It was probably more 2m plus.

The back of my car was at the transitional slope between the raised kerb and the flat dropped area.

annoydnow The point of the dropped kerb is that you mustn't obstruct access across it, so if any part of your car is in front of the dropped part of the kerb you are in the wrong. And of course your car extends beyond the wheels.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by your second question but as I said in my earlier post you can only have one car width of dropped kerb (according to my Council). And you certainly can't have a dropped kerb in front of a wall since that isn't an access to an off-road parking space.

It's only illegal to park across a driveway if there is a car on the drive and your vehicle would prevent them from leaving. It is not illegal to park so that someone cannot get onto their drive. Ergo, as long as you weren't preventing your neighbour from getting his vehicle off of his drive, you were legally parked.

I would definitely report him to the police and emphasise how aggressive he was and how that made you feel.

Also if the road is narrow it is reasonable to allow for the car coming out to be able to turn, which might need more width than just the dropped kerb. In my case the Tee bar extends some distance beyond the dropped kerb on both sides

OfMiceandCats What you said about entrance and exit is quite correct. But of course if you regularly park across the entrance when the owner is due home that is going to create a very unpleasant situation, and I suspect the police would have something to say about it.

It seems to me like they have taken the arrogant stance of "to make surr I always get to park in front of my own home Ill take away the wall so people cant park across my drive"....well, its not a drive, so park away, I say.

As long as you arent blicking them IN thrn keep doing what you are doing. Tbh, this would bug me so much id make a point of parking over their 'space' whenever the opportunity arose.

if they want a drive they either apply via council to convert or buy a house with a drive in the firstplace.

But is the stone that tapers the angle between the raised kerb on the front of the pavement and meets the carriageway actually the 'dropped' kerb. No part of my car was at the point where the dropped kerb was flush with the road.

He has a front and only part of it is removed for driveway access. The dropped kerb extends from this drive access for quite a distance to include frontage on wall.

He had no problem with access. He wanted to park a van/ small truck on the road in front of his dropped kerb. He is not using using his drive at the moment, but very wide dropped kerb. His front wall is only partially removed and the dropped kerb covers significant walled area with no access to parking.

Sallyingforth, well I didn't say she was regularly parking across someone's drive, did I?

Just pointing out that it isn't illegal to do that, so, in the circumstances described by the OP, she wasn't parked illegally and her neighbour had no right to demand that she move her vehicle.

No Mice, I wasn't suggesting it at all. Only that it would be asking for trouble to do that.

"His front wall is only partially removed and the dropped kerb covers significant walled area with no access to parking."
If there is no access behind the dropped kerb that it has no relevance and you can park there quite legally. As I said above, and I'm sure Mice will agree, a dropped kerb does NOT mean No Parking. If the house owner complains, just refer him to the police.

You could always contact the council and ask why there is a dropped kerb when it doesn't give access to anything other than a wall.

OP we have a dropped curb and a driveway - and people still park in front of it totally blocking us in. My dh had a chat with the local PCSO about it and was told that it's not technically illegal to park over someone's drive - the only thing the driveway-owner can do is report a 'vehicle causing an obstruction' to the local traffic police. THey will take action in an 'emergency'. He wasn't too clear what constituted an 'emergency' either! Which is blooming annoying.

SO I suppose my point is the nasty man had no justification in shouting at you (if I have understood this correctly) - but I would strongly advise you not to wage war with your neighbours over parking spaces, especially if you own the house.

I live in a rather built up area, with very very little off-street parking. However, one street which can get quite busy has drives and I see a LOT of homeowners cars parked oddly, so that the front of the car is only just on the drive and the rest of the car is out in the road, with the end of the boot level with where other card would park adjacent (if that makes any sense). Only works as there as there isn;t a pedestrian pathway on that side of the road but at least it means you can always get back off your drive.

Part of the dropped kerb allows access to the parking area. The remainder extends to a walled area. The gap for the drive in only involves a small part of his frontage. The lowered kerp extends further than this gap.

At no point was my car covering where the kerb meets the ground. I don't know if I was wrong in this. The back of my car did cover the sloping part of the pavement however. I was not at the access end of the kerb.

I don't want to wage war. I was the one treated in an intimidating way. His van overextends the dropped kerb so he needs extra kerb space in front. I think I regard his kerb as appearing longer than it because a good bit of it has wall and gate at the frontage, not the access gap.

You only need to leave the access gap clear. Nothing else.
But be careful that his van doesn't 'accidentally' hit your car.

Yes. Things have gotten kind of weird really. I don't seem to be dealing with a 'normal' situation. I would (will) be worried about my own car. The man doesn't seem to be in full control of himself. I'm even worried about him harming or trying to run my cat down now. I suppose I'm intimidated by his aggression.

I've kept my husband from going over. If there is an issue, the police can deal with it. Husband thinks he a bully and would not have communicated with him in the way he did with me. He didn't engage with me at all. Just kept his hand on the door bell and barked 'move it' and 'just move the car' at me. H said he would have walked away had he treated him like that. But the guy was really aggressive and I wondered was my overhanging the slope of pavement area wrong. When he started shouting' just move the bloody car' as I was moving away, I was quite frightened. Damn bully. He would not have done this to my husband.

Is it just me or do others have these surreal encounters?