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To not expect the social worker to lie?

24 replies

hiddenhome · 07/06/2012 20:26

Social Worker is telling a blatant lie in order to cause trouble and spark an investigation. Something trivial that happened three months ago Hmm She knows I don't like her and she's lying to shit stir.

Can I complain about her doing this?

Who put these jokers in charge anyway? Hmm

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DanyTargaryen · 07/06/2012 20:28

Bit vague, we can't possibly answer with such little info. Care to elaborate?

RandomNumbers · 07/06/2012 20:28

Have you evidence to counteract the allegation?

I hope others with more knowledge/experience will be along to help you

hiddenhome · 07/06/2012 20:33

Oh, yes, two witnesses who were present and fully involved. She's just totally lying and misrepresenting what occured. The event is so trivial, it's just stupid, which is why I believe she's doing it to just cause trouble.

I can't go into details. I was just wondering if I should complain about her doing this as it's simply not justified.

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TidyDancer · 07/06/2012 20:36

I can't really give you any advice on such little information. I understand why you feel you can't say anything further though.

Are you sure she's lying and not just interpreting things differently?

WhataMistakeaToMakea · 07/06/2012 20:42

As a sw myself I would advise you to complain if you feel you want to. Just be careful to make sure it's a complaint and not a rant as no one will listen to you otherwise.

If she has done nothing wrong then they won't find anything to worry her, but if she has then she will be called up on it.

If you want to be sure it's definately what you think - tell a third party if you can who wasn't involved and get their opinion as to how they see it?

hiddenhome · 07/06/2012 20:49

What she is doing wrong is lying and misrepresenting the situation in order to call the meeting. There is no justification for this meeting as the event occured three months ago. Something else has sparked this SW off and she's just on the warpath gathering anything she can to cause trouble.

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crashdoll · 07/06/2012 20:52

You're still not being specific but anyway, if you have evidence and something to complain about, I suggest you put it in writing and send it to her manager.

TidyDancer · 07/06/2012 20:55

Well the fact that whatever the incident was happened three months ago is a bit neither here nor there really, as it depends entirely on what actually happened.

What do you think has sparked her off this time?

If you really want opinions, you will need to give a little bit more information, there's not enough to go on.

izzyizin · 07/06/2012 20:55

Without knowing all of the facts of the matter, I would caution you against making a formal complaint against a social worker unless you have irrefutable proof of wrongdoing.

If you are intent on making an official complaint, make it factual, cite any evidence in support, and avoid allegations of 'shit stirring' and the like.

If this is a child protection matter, I would especially urge you to act with restraint.

crashdoll · 07/06/2012 21:04

I would never caution against making a complaint. You always have the right to make a complaint. It is in the General Social Care Council's requirements of a social worker to a.) inform their service user's right to complain and b.) inform them of the correct procedures to follow.

ErikNorseman · 07/06/2012 21:06

So, 3 months ago something worrying happened. Now something else has happened and you have an assigned SW who wants to call a (tac?) meeting. You don't agree with her interpretation of events and you want to make a complaint. Is that right?
You are within your rights to complain.

AbyCat · 07/06/2012 23:27

By all means, make a complaint. Just don't expect to get anything other than a letter saying that they have investigated your complaint, and won't be upholding anything.

Portofino · 07/06/2012 23:31

I think you have give more details to get any hope of a meaningful reply.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 07/06/2012 23:38

Cant you just explain the truth about the situation at this meeting? Is there any chance that this social worker may have a valid, yet different, point of view?

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/06/2012 23:43

This sort of thing pisses me off. Vague accusations, you won't tell us what happened, the SW can't tell us what happened. Just another random opportunity to have a go at SWs. When I worked for SS I was frequently in the position of seeing SWs complained about and they couldn't say, "actually, I know about sexual abuse" because they had to keep confidentiality. They are so easy to accuse. If you have grounds for complaint, complain. Don't allude to SW's incompetency online and give no details.

lisaro · 07/06/2012 23:46

You're very quiet about the details and why you have a social worker, OP. can't help but feel there's more to this.

Birdsgottafly · 07/06/2012 23:49

Any dispute about the interpretation of events should also be brought up at the meeting. It will go into the minutes and be on record.

Whether the calling of the meeting or what the SW's take on what has happened is important will be decided after the meeting and by the subsequent events.

I would put your point/feelings across by using both the complaint system and the meeting.

Oppsididitagain · 07/06/2012 23:50

Is it possible that perhaps you are both seeing the same thing but through eyes that have different standerds/ expectations?

Write down exactly what happened or didn't happen and then compare it to her version of events
if she's right actually engage with her, if she's not use a third party advocate to assist with rectifying the matter

Birdsgottafly · 07/06/2012 23:53

Tbh, if you want to be liked you keep well out of child protection, so it won't matter to her whether she is liked by you.

She won't be shit stirring, she will just have a different interpretation of events.

Get legal advice and go through and answer her concerns and any other professionals imput into your situation.

busybean · 07/06/2012 23:57

lisaro I agree, you dont have a social worker for no reason, there are obviously concerns somewhere along the line about someone and they have to investigate stuff, especially if you are already on their radar-they cant risk another babyP.

asianbabe · 08/06/2012 00:00

I'm also a social worker OP u really need to give us more information about what the sw has said or done. It is very hard to prove a social worker has lied as a lot of the information we have and use is factual from other professionals or agencies . I would advise you to seek legal advice . I personally have never known a sw to lie

ErikNorseman · 08/06/2012 05:34

Op has pmed me, it's not about her own children, just to stop that line of thought.

CaptainKirk · 08/06/2012 07:37

There are many good social workers and bad ones as well. Throughout the adoption process ours was lovely, but several that our friends had were not. Complain to her line manager and supply proof. It does help. Our friends SW was removed from their case for being incompetent after they complained.

FamiliesShareGerms · 08/06/2012 08:02

We had a social worker whilst we were going through then adoption process, so it doesn't necessarily mean that the OP has anything going on to cause concern.

We got on well with our SW but my parents really didn't, got quite upset at some of things said and the SW wanted to call some big meeting with them, us, her line manager, two other SWs "to explore their issues". In the end I told our SW there were no issues to discuss and there had been a misunderstanding and there would be no meeting. If your situation is similar,i think you either need to have a frank conversation with your SW, or - if you prefer - her line manager.

Without more details it's hard to give advice, but my general rule of thumb is to try to resolve issues informally first, ideally to avoid the formal complaints channel. You can always escalate and move to the formal channel, but it's hard to row back from a complaint.

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