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to think that if you eat fish or chicken you are not a vegetarian?

164 replies

knowitallstrikesagain · 07/06/2012 10:43

So vegetarian seems to mean different things to different people. But the common definition is flesh from an animan, including fish and birds, used as food.

If you don't eat meat, you are a vegetarian. If you eat meat, you are not a vegetarian. If poultry and fish are types of meat and you eat them, then you do eat meat and are therefore not a vegetarian.

Didn't the powers that be come up with a new word to describe people who eat fish but no other type of meat? (I know what it is but can't spell it Blush )

I understand saying you are veggie to make life easier, eg when RSVPing a wedding for food, or a staff meal out, but if you are having dinner with a friend, surely you could specify that you like some meats more than others?

AIBU to think that if you eat ANY animals, you are not a vegetarian?

OP posts:
TheMonster · 07/06/2012 10:43

You are right.

iseenodust · 07/06/2012 10:44

YANBU

Hammy02 · 07/06/2012 10:44

YANBU. The clue is in the 'veg' in vegetarian!

squeakytoy · 07/06/2012 10:45

I think pescatarian is used to describe people who eat fish but not animal meat.

FermezLaBouche · 07/06/2012 10:46

This annoys me loads. At uni I had a "veggie" friend who loved a good old bacon sarnie when hung over. I wouldn't have questioned this if she hadn't been so knobbish about animal rights and the cruelty in eating meat. She went ballistic when challenged though! :)

WorraLiberty · 07/06/2012 10:46

Or picky bastard Grin

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 07/06/2012 10:46

YANBU - dont they call people who just eat fish pescatarian or something?? But no, being vegetarian means no dead animals/fishes.

I used to have a "veggie" friend who did eat fish - she used to say she just ate fish who died of a heart attack :)

DilysPrice · 07/06/2012 10:46

YANBU but for some reason "pescetarian" didn't catch on. I don't see what's wrong with "I don't eat red meat" though - simple, direct and to the point.

MacaroniSaysShetlandPony · 07/06/2012 10:47

YANBU however some people prefer to RSVP saying they are vegetarian as it's easier than saying 'I don't eat red meat but do eat chicken and fish and bacon sandwiches'

HecateTrivia · 07/06/2012 10:48

pescatarian. i think.

I assume that must be people who don't eat other meat because they don't like it and not those who have an ethical objection to eating living things. (once living things) cos i don't see how you could not want to eat an animal cos it's cruel/wrong/disgusting/whatever yet be ok to eat a fish. Also a living creature.

And yes, if you eat any meat at all, ever, from the point at which you declared you would eat no meat - you are not a veggie.

TheSurgeonsMate · 07/06/2012 10:51

I have two friend who will eat fish but not other meats. The only context in which I have to deal with this is when I book a table for dinner at posh restaurants and they ask "Any dietary requirements?" I just say "Yes, one vegetarian who eats fish" and they just write that down without a blink of an eye. The food always comes out just fine.

knowitallstrikesagain · 07/06/2012 10:51

Thanks squeaky, Betty and Hecate for the spelling!

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WorraLiberty · 07/06/2012 10:51

The word "Pescatarian" always reminds me of some sort of Northern Irish political leaning for some reason Grin

HecateTrivia · 07/06/2012 10:55

i've just googled 'what do you call someone who doesn't eat red meat'

and apparently it's "Quasi-Vegetarian" or "Pollotarian" (eats poultry) or "pesce-pollotarian" - eats poultry and fish

Vegetarians don't eat anything that once had a face.

nosleepwithworry · 07/06/2012 10:56

Thats me, i do not claim to be a vegie, but i dont eat red meat however always say im vegie when invited places for eating as i dont want to be in the position of facing a big wedge of steak or somesuch.

I LOVE anything vegie, so its the best way for me.

bleedingheart · 07/06/2012 11:01

YANBU
I am a vegetarian (no meat or fish),but people seem to assume that I will eat fish or can't be a proper vegetarian as I drink milk and eat cheese!
I've lost count of the number of times I've had to explain that tuna isn't a vegetarian option!

piprabbit · 07/06/2012 11:03

I'm not vegetarian, however I will sometimes choose the vegetarian option if it looks nicer than the meat option.
I have been told off by various people for choosing a vegetarian option because apparently it's only for vegetarians. I'm not talking about being thoughtless and nabbing the last veggie sandwich from a platter so there is nothing left for the true vegetarians, I'm talking about choosing omelette and chips instead of offal stew from a menu.
People have very odd ideas about vegetarian food.

hackmum · 07/06/2012 11:05

YANBU. I am a vegetarian and I get sick of people asking me if I eat fish. I assume this is the result of all those people who call themselves vegetarian when they also eat fish.

I also hate questions like "Are you a pure vegetarian?" Wtf does that mean?

HecateTrivia · 07/06/2012 11:05

That's vegan, isn't it? Not eating any animal product?

Then there's Fruitarianism.

HecateTrivia · 07/06/2012 11:06

sorry, that was reply to bleedingheart.

ellenjames · 07/06/2012 11:13

i dont eat meat but eat fish but couldn't care less what others think as it's my choice, to be honest i havent eaten fish in months either x

slowestwildebeast · 07/06/2012 11:18

piprabbit that is hilarious.

'Don't order the veggie option as it is only for veggies'.

I was a veggie for a year. Lost half a stone. But then again I don't like cheese or pasta.

I never realised how crap veggies have it when you go for meals.

Yanbu.

MeCookGoodSock · 07/06/2012 11:24

I posted this on another thread...

The whole debate is due to the literal definition of meat. You can use a general definition from a dictionary, the criteria used for the food pyramid, a religious definition, or a scientific assessment. The reason a debate even exists is because people use different definitions.

Some within the Catholic religion follow a latin translation for definition. This specifically excludes fish, seafood, and insects from the definition. Other translate the definition of "meat" into "RED MEAT".

There is no right or wrong. That fish flesh is protein is not arguable, fish is higher in proteins than red meat.

I found the above on google which explained my confusion on the subject to me.

I don't eat red meat. I'm not a vegetarian.

QuacksForDoughnuts · 07/06/2012 11:26

YANBU.

Jinsei · 07/06/2012 11:30

YANBU, vegetarian means no meat or fish. However, I do describe our family as vegetarian on some occasions because people understand it and the word pescatarian gets Hmm or Confused reactions from people. And we eat veggie 90% of the time anyway, so it's just more convenient.

I used to be a proper vegetarian, and it probably would have annoyed me back then if fish-eaters had said that they were veggie. Now I've joined the other side, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest! Wink