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38 replies

ChunkysMum · 06/06/2012 17:37

Differentiate the following wrt x1 and x2:

f=-(1-t^2)/(x1+x2t)

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SpottyTeacakes · 06/06/2012 17:38
Confused
LeeCoakley · 06/06/2012 17:39

Hmmm.

ChunkysMum · 06/06/2012 17:41

Actually, I think it's simpler if I call x1, A and x2, B. So:

Differentiate the following wrt A and B:

f = -(1-t^2)/(A+Bt)

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DreamingofSummer · 06/06/2012 17:42

Are B and A both variables?

Is t a constant or a variable?

ninja · 06/06/2012 17:43

OK - is this further maths? Partial differentialtion? is t a variable?

OldGreyWiffleTest · 06/06/2012 17:43

Jeez, it was 1+1 in my day so I'm running after Spotty and Lee !

TrinityIsAFuckingRhino · 06/06/2012 17:43
rainydaysarebad · 06/06/2012 17:43

Sorry cant help; this is why Ive started sending dd age 4 to kumon, so she's not a thicko in maths like me.

rainydaysarebad · 06/06/2012 17:44

Grin trinity- ah fond memories!! Also, legless!!

ninja · 06/06/2012 17:44

it looks like t is the variable, then it's a case of using the quotient rule

f' = vu'-uv'/v2 where v = (A+Bt) and u = -(1-t2)

otaku · 06/06/2012 17:45

Is this a proof/ generalisation thingy? Can you give the esact question? Have you timesed out the brackets?

rainydaysarebad · 06/06/2012 17:45

8008135 and 1391355

ninja · 06/06/2012 17:46

so v' (dv/dt) = B and u' (du/dt) = 2t

rainydaysarebad · 06/06/2012 17:46

Oh threads getting serious now, time to leave!

otaku · 06/06/2012 17:46

Second the quotient rule I've read the question properly lol Its not as hard as it looks Confused

ninja · 06/06/2012 17:48

then f' = ((A+Bt)2t+(1-t2)B)/(A+Bt)2

if A and B are variables then it's a cse of partial differentiation which I can come back to if you want

TroublesomeEx · 06/06/2012 17:49

Feeling a bit thick - what's 1391355?

otaku · 06/06/2012 17:49

what does (x1+x2t) mean? x+2Xt or x+2t?

ninja · 06/06/2012 17:52

The way I've answered is differentailting wrt t (and giving answer in terms of A and B) which isn't what you've written

ChunkysMum · 06/06/2012 17:53

Thank you Ninja, it's been a while since I've done this sort of maths (years) and a friend has asked.

I've passed on your posts.

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ChunkysMum · 06/06/2012 17:54

Oh dear Ninja, I've messaged to ask if the wording is the exact question.

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DreamingofSummer · 06/06/2012 17:56

I agree with ninja if it's a simple variable in t

otaku · 06/06/2012 17:56

Oh I saw it as Using the pruduct rule within the quotient rule? I am no good with maths on a computer or in any way I don't write it >

otaku · 06/06/2012 17:58

and then partialy differentiating...? I think my brain just dribbled out my ear

ChunkysMum · 06/06/2012 18:13

Just clarified, what is in the OP is the exact question. Can you differentiate wrt A and B?

Sorry, if that doesn't make sense.

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