to be feeling uncomfortable [confused face]

[FoofFighter]

I'm English, been living in Scotland for a long while now.

Lots of people who are personal friends on Facebook commenting in not too pleasant terms about the Jubilee celebrations and England and making sarky comments, lots of independence talk arising from it, lots of name-calling and degroatory claptrap mixed with sectarian stuff.

It's not aimed directly at me but they know that I amongst other English friends living in Scotland will see it obviously.

I feel very sad that people I think are friends have such low opinions of the English as a whole, so they must mean me too by assosciation mustn't they?

Is anyone else getting this happening too?

no but if it did I would bin them.fb is supposed to be fun.

Don't take it personally, it's a political thing.

I haven't seen any of this recently, but I would delete any bigot on my friend's list.

It does scare me sometimes how much hate there is in the world for such bloody ridiculous non-reasons.

Real life friends not just FB friends though, and bloody good ones some of them,

"Don't take it personally, it's a political thing."

And that makes it okay? I'm afraid that wouldn't cut it for me.

Then confront perhaps?

I see a similar thing with the welsh relatives I've got on fb with football, it's said in a joking way, but it's through gritted teeth IYKWIM?

I answer it in a similar 'joking' way but picking them up on their 'Anyone But England' stance.

It doesn't bother me, but maybe the things I see are a bit tamer than what you're talking about?

Maybe I'd feel differently if it was out and out hostility?

That's crappy and makes me ashamed. I don't believe it's Political - much of the sectarian stuff makes no sense and is quite contrary to fact and history.

Generally, I would hide their posts until next weekend then be glad it's all
Over. I would imagine that these same people will enjoy a wee lie-in on Tuesday morning.

I went to a celebration in Cardiff bay when I was at uni. One Welsh guy - friend of a friend - refused to come into the funfair area because The Queen is the queen of England and I am Welsh He stood outside for about two hours I thought it was quite sad really.
I would make light comments like 'Really? Is that necessary?!' on FB if you can.

I think you are taking it too personally.

I'm Scottish and in Scotland. Yes there will be comments about the Jubilee and The Queen

I doubt it's directed at you personally though

Will you make comments, Blue?

Personally I've not seen any comments on FB like that

I'd comment pretty quick if there were, probably with an "oi do you include my family in that"

I live in Scotland but have relatives in Ireland, Wales and England

I never thought it was aimed personally at me, i did say that, doesn't change the fact that when you slag off my country and my people in such a vicious way it makes me feel very uncomfortable and like I am an outsider who will deep down never be accpeted.

I am Scottish and have been quite mortified by some of the comments I have seen and heard recently. I hope that they don't continue until fishfaces referendum in 2014! We have a local jubilee party planned for tomorrow and DS1 has been learning at nursery about the royal family he is quite excited, although cant say 'union jack' so says the 'June flag' which u find rather cute

I remember being in a pub with DH, who is English, when England played Portugal in the world cup and I actually wanted to die of shame at the utter racist shite that was being thrown around

Been chatting to OH about this - he is English and has lived in scotland for 15 years. He has been on the receiving end of "I hate the English, not you personally though pal". There is only so much of that you can shrug off. I haven't seen any anti English sentiment on my Facebook thread. I have seen a bit of anti-monarchist stuff and a bit of tiresome independance stuff - I don't mean that as a political statement but ago often it is expressed as "it's oor oil".

It'll all be over soon. If something is genuinely hurtful then say so - most people would be mortified.

No ...

But I'm not on facebook

It's just not an issue up here , they aren't any jubilee celebrations

I feel for the OP though if she feels that she is getting a hard time because she is English

Dp is Scottish so I have a lot of Scottish people on fb, mainly his relatives (he seems to have a massive extended family). None of them have yet said anything derogatory about England.

I think I would probably take it personally too, but would feel happy enough about pulling them up about it. I'm sure all of my friends/dp's family would be ok with being pulled up on it too. Maybe it's just the part of Scotland you are in?

Tidy I didn't say it makes it ok. Bigotry is not nice in any facet. I'm just saying to the OP don't take it personally, which I thought she was. OP says she isn't taking it personally, so it's different.

I have never felt targeted or anything up here before this week past I have to say, there are a lot of English and a few other countries because of the RAF.

I think it looked like I was saying you thought that made it okay....I phrased that badly, I'm sorry.

I just meant in general, someone not taking something personally, doesn't make the something acceptable.

I'm not in Glasgow where you would expect it of course, but which still doesn't make it acceptable anyway.

why would you expect it in Glasgow?

is that a genuine question!

If they are saying bad things about 'the English' and you are English how can you take it in any way but personally ?

I think your comment of 22:46 has destroyed your argument/objections.