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AIBU?

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to think putting your bin out early is not as serious as stealing

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5Foot5 · 30/05/2012 12:58

I heard a story on this morning's Today programme on BBC Radio 4 that made my jaw drop.

A Minister of State called Caroline Spelman was talking about how some fines had been reviewed to make them more proportionate to the offence. The example she gave was that putting your dustbin out early or leaving the lid up could potentially attract a fine of £120. However, that had now been lowered to £80 which put it on the same level as a first time shoplifting offence.

Seriously!?

I was gobsmacked that:
a) There actually are areas where you can be fined for putting your bin out too early (define too early)
b) Anyone in their right minds thinks that this is as serious as, and should attract the same penalty as, deliberately stealing from a shop.

Words (almost) fail.

Surely IANBU to think this is absolutely barking?

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FringeEvent · 30/05/2012 13:19

YANBU

lou2321 · 30/05/2012 13:20

Of course YANBU, that is outragious!

DailyMailSpy · 30/05/2012 13:23

Ya definitely nbu, I don't really know what to say to that

RevoltingPeasant · 30/05/2012 13:25

IMO it is worse than stealing.

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5Foot5 · 30/05/2012 13:27

Go on peasant I will bite - why?

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neverquitesure · 30/05/2012 13:29

YANBU at all

StripyMagicDragon · 30/05/2012 13:30

I stay in a ground floor flat. My neighbours in the block left their bin on the street for a few days before bin collection. Someone set the bin on fire. It was directly in front of my living room window, which was slightly open. My curtains, then the sofa, caught fire.
YANBU to be amazed at the fine, I certainly am. But my neighbours were warned repeatedly not to leave bins out, as we had rats that were attracted to the food leftovers in them.
I am aware that vandalism can happen any time. But if their bin was out the back in the shelter, it would never have happened. And I hate that the food in the bins attracts rats.
I may be biased right now though.

geegee888 · 30/05/2012 13:45

Oh no! I'm going to put my bin out today, and it won't be collected until tomorrow! Then it will sit until next week, as I'm going to Sweden tonight!!

The horrors!

If I miss this collection it will be another two weeks before another one.

Meanwhile, the local druggie children use part of the woods behind my garden for all sorts every night and the police never do a thing about it.

thebody · 30/05/2012 13:53

It's quite crazy, mine are too heavy for me to wheel out do my dh does it the might before as they come early.

Fukin ridiculous. What if you are ill?

misslinnet · 30/05/2012 15:39

How early is too early?

Our bins have to be put out by 7am on collection day, so we usually put them out the night before. We only get rubbish collected fortnightly, so we can't afford to miss the binmen.

Ishoes · 30/05/2012 15:54

I have the bin gestapo living in my street so YANBU!! seriously if you take your bin out the night before-have been caught out by binmen arriving stupidly early-or if you have extra rubbish that you leave on top or beside your bin then they will grass you up to the council!

We simply cannot fit all our rubbish in the 3 bins we have that are only being emptied every 2 weeks so what do they want us to do? I cant get to the local dump as dont drive an every time dh goes it seems to be closed for health and safety reasons

AThingInYourLife · 30/05/2012 15:55

"Oh no! I'm going to put my bin out today, and it won't be collected until tomorrow! Then it will sit until next week, as I'm going to Sweden tonight!!"

Yuck, wow vile.

Glad I don't live near you.

Leaving full bins on the street is antisocial.

Elfontheedge · 30/05/2012 15:57

Bins going out too early. Britain is broken I tell you, BROKEN!

skrullandcrossbones · 30/05/2012 15:58

but she's not leaving a full bin, athing. The bin is being collected tomorrow. The empty bin will sit on the street until she's back from holiday, that's all!

NovackNGood · 30/05/2012 15:59

Having bins collected once every two weeks is vile. Why can't they put the large continental style bins in every street and collect from them every night lick they do in many european Cities. No rats and no smell unless you inhale inside them and that includes long summers of 40 degrees plus every day

Ishoes · 30/05/2012 16:00

athing-where exactly would you like her to leave bin then? I have to take mine right along the street to be collected. My neighbours complain if I put it out too early and they also complain if I dont take it-you cant win. Personally I would rather the bin was along the street than outside my house as we get foxes and birds trying to get at it.

lollilou · 30/05/2012 16:01

But AThingInYourLife her bin will only be out overnight then it will be empty. Though I guess really she should ask a neighbour to bring it back in.
Our binmen come really early so I always put my bin out the night before but it's not on the road and I have a lovely downstairs neighbour who brings it back in for me.

redstormrising · 30/05/2012 16:04

In our area we have been told by the council (whose wages I bloody pay for, harrumph) that we are forbidden (forbidden) to put the bins out before 7 am on bin day. I leave for my train at 6 am. I wrote a furious letter to them. Surprise, no response.

(And it is £150 fine apparently).

ChaoticismyLife · 30/05/2012 16:06

I put mine out the night before as the binmen usually come before I get up in the morning. Everybody else does it, we just make sure they're not obstructing the path.

dexter73 · 30/05/2012 16:22

I put my bins out the night before as I am not awake or dressed at 7am some mornings. Pretty much everyone in our road does.

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5Foot5 · 30/05/2012 17:02

restormrising That is so unreasonable!

We do put our bins out the night before. As does everyone in the street and there has never been any trouble about it. But the sheer effrontery of your council - charging you for a service and then dictating such unreasonable retsrictions!! And ignoring your correspondence! As you say - who the bloody hell pays their wages

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NakedButNotFamous · 30/05/2012 17:15

Everyone on our street puts the bins out the night before. No one has ever been fined. Ridiculous getting fined for that anyway.

Onthebottomwithawomansweekly · 30/05/2012 17:27

Defo ridiculous.

Our bins are collected at 7-8 am (used to be a bit later). They wrote to us and asked that bins be left out the night before when they made the time earlier, which I thought made perfect sense. Commonsense in short supply in some areas I think.

Also I work full time and my lovely neighbours usually pop the bin inside my gate when they are bringing their own back in (stealth boast) (makes note to self to return the favour when on hols next week)

GreenEggsAndNichts · 30/05/2012 19:06

I'm sorry, I've never even considered that it was odd to put the bin out around 9pm or so. The times they arrive to pick them vary and tbh, I am not good at remembering that sort of thing in the morning.

Most of the people on my close, if not all of them, do the same.

Dprince · 30/05/2012 19:33

Our bins are emptied weekly and it used to be around 9am. Over the last few weeks ita has been getting earlier. So we have started putting them out at night. 2 weeks ago they came just before 7am and we weren't up. I have to say I have just moved from an area that only gets their bins picked up every 2 weeks, now I get a weekly pick up I can't believe how there is no smell when you open it and just seems cleaner. Everyone should get their rubbish picked up every week imo. At least.

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