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to not put suncream on DS3 today?

35 replies

5inthebed · 30/05/2012 12:45

Took DS3 to nursery this morning for a 3 hour session. Weather was overcast and drizzly so did not put suncream on him.

When I went to pick him up it was still overcast. Nursery worker pulled me to one side and told me that if he did not have sun cream on him at the next session then he would not be able to attend as to their new sign on the door states "all children must have suncream on them for the summer sessions"

Now I always put suncream on my kids when the weather requires it, but really, did I really need to be told off for not putting it on him for a wet drizzly summer day?

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StripyMagicDragon · 30/05/2012 12:50

It's probably some crazy health and safety where the nursery staff would be pulled up if any child was slightly red. YANBU to think you could use your own judgement however. I would just cream him up and send him, it's nearly summer hols anyway.

My dd's nursery has an industrial size vat of suncream and all the kids are slathered in it before they go outside. I know this isn't possible in every nursery though.

Clumsymum · 30/05/2012 12:51

oh hecky thump, the nannying brigade are out again aren't they ??

He is YOUR child, he is your responsibilty, it should be YOUR decision whether he has sun cream on or not. Even if it was sunny, how much of the 3 hour session would be spent outside anyway? My guess is probably not more than 30 mins or so tops, so even if the sun had broken thu, he would hardly have been burnt to a crisp.

Personally, I would be talking to the nursery management about overstepping the mark.

juneybean · 30/05/2012 12:54

Depends whether you'd whinge if your DS came out of nursery red if the sun decided to make an appearance?

PoppyWearer · 30/05/2012 12:54

YANBU, I sent 3yo DD without cream this morning because it was grey. Of course now it's sunny!

I do take it seriously because a family member has had skin cancer.

Her nursery also applies it anyway, regardless.

workshy · 30/05/2012 12:57

my DD has severe eczema and has been told NOT to use suncream at certain times of day as the sunlight really helps her skin so she doesn't have it on before 11am -a morning nursey session I certainly wouldn't apply it

PoppyWearer · 30/05/2012 12:58

workshy my DD has the same. Her skin is so much better after a week of sun!

Methe · 30/05/2012 12:59

How would they know if he has suncream on or not?

I didn't put suncream on my 2 this morning either.

5inthebed · 30/05/2012 13:00

Juney, would not whinge as he is my child, would not expect nursery to put suncream on him.

Poppy, I've had (benign) melanoma so I am very aware of the dangers of the sun.

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juneybean · 30/05/2012 13:01

Had to ask, as a nursery nurse, sometimes we can't do right for wrong Grin

5inthebed · 30/05/2012 13:03

Grin Can see where you are coming from. I live a 2 minut walk from the school so would have gone to put it on him if the sun did decide to break through. Have done it a few times.

He doesn't burn either (not like my other two pasty skinned kids), he just goes a lovely brown Envy

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idontbelieveanymore · 30/05/2012 13:03

My sons nursery were putting cream on all the kids this morning when I went in. I had put some on my son as I had a feeling it would turn out sunny.

As a childminder I always put the cream on each child myself and it should not be a problem for nurseries to apply the cream freshly before going out in the sun.
I understand they want it to be on to protect themselves but they should have a bottle sent in from home with his name on so that it can always be reapplied if necessary.

valiumredhead · 30/05/2012 13:42

You can still burn when it is overcast.

coraltoes · 30/05/2012 13:45

Our nursery applies cream to the kids for outdoor play. Far easier than guessing whether or not a parent has done it. They check we are ok with the brand they use, and tell us to supply an alternative in case of allergy etc.

thebody · 30/05/2012 13:51

As a cm I always apply cream to children in this type of weather, it's do changeable and children can burn in overcast skies anyway.

I ask parents to buy and leave at my house from April onwards. Named just for that child.

Would you be pissed off if your child burned at nursery, or with a cm i I would.

You should have applied it and your nursery was right to pick you up on this.

Cockwomble · 30/05/2012 13:51

valium that's exactly what I was going to post!

I also don't understand people equating how hot it is with whether they need suncream or not - ie a colleague got burnt in the last few days as there was a breeze that made him "not realise how hot it was" Confused

valiumredhead · 30/05/2012 13:56

The worst sun burn I ever had was from a very cloudy day in Greece and there was a thunder storm - hot enough to go swimming but not roasting and no sun at all.

tyler80 · 30/05/2012 13:59

yanbu

when it comes to sunscreen some people think better safe than sorry but ensuring skin never sees the sun without being covered in cream is damaging too. There's been a massive rise in vitamin d deficiency partly because of parents covering children up all the time.

wishiwasonholiday · 30/05/2012 14:02

I'm a cm so a bit different but if a child left my care sunburnt it would be my responsibility not the parents and I wouldn't risk being reported to ofsted, do you provide some for in case the sun does come out? I would apply anyway before going out just in case as it may not be as effective by the time we go out/the sun comes out.

squoosh · 30/05/2012 14:42

Agree with Tyler80 about the Vitamin D deficiency. Glasgow has the highest incidence of MS in the UK and they are thinking it may possibly be linked to a lack of Vitamin D.

We need sunlight to function. Obviously not to the extent that we burn but we need to absorb Vit D through unsunscreened skin for at least 20 mins every day.

Downandoutnumbered · 30/05/2012 15:06

YANBU. Our nursery puts it on the children anyway: I don't always bother when I drop him off in the morning because it's early in the morning and he's not out in the sun for more than a five minutes.

eurochick · 30/05/2012 15:14

YANBU. That's not being sensible in the sun, it's bonkers! Suncreams are full of chemicals and can cause a lack of vit D. They really shouldn't be used unless the benefits outweigh the risks (as on a sunny day).

5inthebed · 30/05/2012 16:09

The weather is overcast and lighly drizzling on and off, if playing outside he would be playing in a small area which is half covered. I seriously doubt he would get sunburnt today.

I do think (some) parents/carers put too much suncream on their children.

General rule in my house, if you see blue sky you get suncream.

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lou2321 · 30/05/2012 16:17

If a child is in our care for a 3 hour session it is the parents responsibility to put cream on before they come in, there is no reason the pre-school should need to within that 3 hours and how would they know if you have or haven't anyway.

The only time we would insist a child has suncream (or they would not be allowed outside) is if they are staying all day (they usually send it in at the beginning of the summer for the sun cream box). If parents put a 'once' cream on them and we are told that it will last all day then that is also fine.

lou2321 · 30/05/2012 16:22

Reading back, I am surprised so many parents think its up to the nursery to put on even if they are only there in the morning. It is supposed to be put on a while before they go out in the sun (approx 1/2 hour) not just before they go out.

The weather forecast the night before or the morning should give you an idea of whether you should need it at all that day.

At the end of the day you can get burnt regardless of cloud cover etc and you would be cross with the nursery if your DCs got burnt.

Downandoutnumbered · 30/05/2012 16:31

I don't "think it's up to the nursery": they know what they're going to be doing with the children that day and when they're going to be out, and they specifically say that they will deal with sunscreen. Which makes sense, because I don't see why DS should have to be slathered in the stuff if he's going to be indoors for the first couple of hours he's there.

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