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afussyphase · 30/05/2012 12:28

Last night I got a call from a credit card fraudster /scammer (as it turned out). You know the thing, someone calls, saying there's an emergency, there are unusual charges on your card, blah blah. You're supposed to call the bank back, and not give them any information. So I said I'd do that, and he said, yes please, please call us back right away, it's an emergency. I called the HSBC number on the back of the card (08475 404 404) and I got routed back to him via some guy who said he was HSBC customer service! The call didn't reach HSBC, whom I later called on my mobile, realised that their genuine system is automated at first (so it was clear that I hadn't reached it earlier), and they confirmed that this guy was asking for things they do not ask for, and appearing to follow policies they don't have.

My question is: how did they diddle the phones? Has anyone else heard of this (I googled, didn't come up)? if this is well-known obviously IABU but I thought the key thing to avoid these types of phishing is to call the bank back. They have gotten around this (though it became clear that they only had a limited window of opportunity for re-routing the call, because he kept calling me back and didn't want me to call him back after that first time). Scary!

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RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief · 30/05/2012 13:49

I once fell for the cashpoint thing where they clone your card. The worst thing was that I noted the device and thought to myself "ooh, HSBC have got new cashpoints, like the ones they have in New York" (where the bit where you put your card sticks out from the machine). Duh! Duh! Duh! They cleaned me out up to my overdraft limit. Got it back eventually but was going on holiday the next day and had to get DH (who was then bf of 8 wks standing- our first romantic break) to sub me for the whole week till the bank sorted it.

afussyphase · 30/05/2012 13:50

Thanks Felicity, that's nice to hear. It leaves a 'bad taste in your mouth' however it happens, knowing that Bad People are Out To Get You, or something. And it's frankly kind of embarrassing, with the full light of hindsight, to have been led as far along as I was!

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FelicityElectricity · 30/05/2012 13:55

I think they also rely on people feeling so embarrassed that they were taken in that they don't talk about it and warn others. So it's great that you have let others know OP Smile and don't feel like a sucker. You saw through it.

FelicityElectricity · 30/05/2012 13:57

Nightmare richman Sad
Glad you got the money back. Unfortunately it can take a while can't it

Lovepjs · 30/05/2012 15:11

A workmate once had her bag stolen and they called her. By looking at the receipts in her bag they were able to "verify" they were from the bank by telling her how much she had spent in m&s, next and the dates etc.

She believed them and gave her pin

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/05/2012 15:30

I'm in Canada and have had automated calls 'hanging around' on the line after hanging up so I think it is possible.

FelicityElectricity · 30/05/2012 15:37

Sounds like the same lot lovepjs
My scammers told me I'd been to X petrol station and spent x on x date etc. I was completely fooled. Afterwards I realised the bank couldn't have phoned me on the work phone as they didn't even know where I worked as I was on a short term contract.

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