To not pay for ebay tickets now Elton is sick!

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I bought some tickets to see Elton John from ebay yesterday. I had every intention of going this weekend to collect and pay cash. I saw on the news today that Elton is quite ill and now I'm really concerned the concert wont go ahead. I can't see how I would have any comeback to get my money back from the seller who seems desparate for the cash and almost threatening. I appreciate her feelings but if it does get cancelled she will get her card refunded by the ticket agent whereas I wouldn't have a leg to stand on! AIBU to be worried about losing £160?

"hence the seller could get a refund but if the OP buys the tickets from the ebay seller, she can't."

OP knew she was buying on ebay. if a refund was important to her then she shouldn't have agreed to buy these tickets through ebay.

Refund wouldn't have been important if Elton hadn't cancelled. Seller can get refund, OP can't. Seller is also contravening the conditions of her ticket purchase as they're usually not for resale. OP was complicit with this at time she agree dot buy but neither party has moral high ground.

Why would seller be selling tix if not out of greed? Most tix on ebay are there because seller bought extra early with intention to make profit closer to gig. If they're not looking to make profit they'd be slling for face value, wouldn't they?

Really I hadn't heard he was I'll poor elton

every ticket you buy is at risk of being subject to cancellation. when you bu tickets you take this into account and if you want to be refunded in the case of cancellation then you buy tickets from the proper ticket sales companies. OP knew she was taking the risk of no refud when she bought, she probably thought "oh it wont happen to me" but hey ho it did and as she bought her tickets through ebay then the consequnce is that she wont get a refund.

as for the woman's reasons for selling? erm, bought as a gift and doesn't want them, cant go on the date they're for, has taken ill and wont be able to use them, washing machine gave up the ghost and she needs to replace it so tickets go and any other number of reasons you could think of. not sure why it has to be out of greed and has op said that she bid more than face value for them?

Whatever seller's reason is for selling, she CAN get a refund and OP can't. Gift? She's lost no money. Date wrong? Shouldn't have bought them or should have checked calendar before making other arrangements. And she shouldn't have been selling them on Ebay as she was technically touting.
If I was OP I'd keep my money and change ebay account, and if I was seller I'd learn that you read your smallprint before you try to flog your tix on.

hmm. interesting viewpoint you have there. teh seller should read the small print but OP doesn't have to ad should just break the contract she made? why is it ok for OP to break her agreement but the seller shouldn't have broken hers?

and it doesn't matter whether the seller can get a refund or not. OP did not buy them based on getting a refund. she didn't buy them based on whether the seller could get a refund. she bought them knowing she (op) couldn't and she made an agreement to pay for them according to those terms.

at the time of sale the concert was still scheduled so the seller should be paid as she sold tickets for a scheduled concert.

no-one would expect their money back if they bought a fully functioning item that got accidentally damaged after they had bought it would they?

The seller shouldnt be selling tickets on eBay.
You really shouldn't have bid for them.
Email seller and explain that you are not buying as the concert is likely to be cancelled. Advise seller to claim for cancelled ticket themselves.
Notify eBay and if seller leaves poor feedback challenge it.

Iamboy :why is it ok for OP to break her agreement but the seller shouldn't have broken hers?
The seller broke their contract with the ticket company. OP is breaking her contract with the seller.
Even.

In other words, I have no sympathy for the seller at all.

Other posters are correct winning an eBay auction is a legally binding contract. However, if the gig is cancelled the contract is legally voidable.

The seller should ask eBay to cancel the auction & they'll automatically refund her fees & the seller will be entitled to a refund for the tickets from where ever she purchased them from.

The seller won't be left out of pocket, other than the loss of profit, but that isn't the OP's concern, either legally or morally.

If it were me I wouldn't pay u.

Seller gets the refund for the ticket
Seller gets your money too = bonus for the seller and you are paying for something which you are not going to and are getting nothing whatsoever in return, you might as well go to the nearest drain and put your money down there

that was meant to say wouldn't pay up

YANBU, you would be very foolish to go ahead...they can't make you pay.

I would have though the seller will get a refund so yanbu. Also, if he is going to cancel, she doesn't have tickets to sell - the event isn't happening.

so wouldn't it be a force majeure situation? Circumstances beyond either parties control rendering the contract unenforceable?

"if you want to be refunded in the case of cancellation then you buy tickets from the proper ticket sales companies"

It's not that simple. Most big concerts sell out in a morning, many of the tickets being bought purely to sell on and make a profit. The last few I've been to I couldn't get tickets from the original vendor and had to go on ebay (ebay being flooded with the tickets the same day as the original release )

How do the posters in this thread know that the seller can get a refund?

How do they know that the seller is the original buyer?

They don't.

OP should pay for the tickets she's bought.

agree shellyboobs. the seller's contract with whoever she bought the tickets from has no bearing on the contract OP made with the seller. OP did not agree to buy them based on the fact that the seller may or may not have made or broken a contract with someone else. the two things are unrelated. two separate sales. there is no contract between OP and the original ticket vendor so whether they refud the seller or not has nothing to do with OP.

I bought from Ebay a pair of tickets for a concert that was then cancelled within a few minutes of paying for them.

The seller was really professional & lovely towards me....she asked if I would like a refund or if I was happy to wait to see if the date was re-scheduled.

Once she had heard of the new date she then asked me if I was happy to proceed.

Maybe a re-scheduled date is do-able if it's announced, OP?

I say YANBU and don't pay. depends on your seller but we bought tickets for George Michael and it was a journey away. We paid top whack and seller was an unhelpful b***rd when we said we couldn't make it as the rescheduled date fell after my due date. He offered to refund us "at a significantly reduced price" to face value, much less than he would get on refund from the promoter. Many concert ticket resellers on eBay are not nice people - they stalk the ticket selling sites to take tickets from real fans to resell at a profit when they have no interest in going. If you can handle the feedback issue then I wouldn't have any qualms about cancelling.

standard practice for concerts that initial purchasers are eligible for a refund if concert is rescheduled