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AIBU to wish my DS had GP's who wanted to know him?

26 replies

slatternlymother · 18/05/2012 12:26

Ok, here goes.

My parents are not people I get on with very much. My father was, and is, very controlling and was monumentally upset when I decided to get married and have a family. I stayed in contact with them for the benefit of my Mum, who has always been kind of dragged along under his tidal wave of control. To cut a long story short, they saw DS a grand total of 4 times during his first year, despite living only an hour away, and 3 of these were at our own effort. Fine.

During the last visit, last summer DH and I came to their house with our DS, to be greeted by my mum. She said Dad was at work, which was a bit odd since he hadn't mentioned it, but that he'd be back home at 5:30. DS was only young then, and was usually on his way to bed by then and besides, as they hadn't let me know Dad was working, I hadn't brought DS any tea or anything; we were expecting it to be a visit of just a couple of hours; tea and cake, that sort of thing. I offered her to hold DS. She refused, so I popped him down on his mat to play. He shuffled his way over and started smiling at her, patting her feet and saying 'baba' and raising his arms for a cuddle. She didn't even return his smiles, just stared at him and made small talk with us.

Shortly after, sensing we weren't very welcome, we left. A few weeks later, my Mum and I had a falling out and she said that 'we'd best leave contact for as many months or years as it takes for you to come around to our way of thinking.' At first, I felt relief, then sorrow, then didn't think too much about it.

Now, with the summer approaching again, I find myself thinking about the last time we visited and how upset I was over her reaction to DS. He was a baby for Gods' sake! Even if she suddenly hated babies, why would she deny him a smile?

I'm upset because I see other GP's visiting their grandchildren, or willingly being visited by them. I couldn't give two shits about babysitting or helping out; I just want him to be loved. But he's not, and it seems utterly unfair. We have no one else of that age group who would want to be GP's, and I'm upset he'll miss out with interacting with that generation. I gained so much from it, and regularly see my maternal GP's now.

I have sought counselling, it's not something I'm usually bothered by though. I can normally go about my life and not be bothered; even think we're probably better off. But just at the minute, it's smarting a bit and I've even found myself quite cross with them. AIBU?

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porcamiseria · 18/05/2012 12:29

awwww

Its incredibly upsetting

but YOU CANT CHANGE THEM

you can only change how you allow them to make them feel

Lots of babies dont even have gradparents remember

I cant imagine how hurtful it must have been to witness you mother not responding to your lovely babe

I hate to say, but if they hurt you that mich- MINIMISE CONTACT

XX

slatternlymother · 18/05/2012 12:31

I don't contact them porca, we cut contact at my mum's suggestion. It's flooding back a bit now though.

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thebody · 18/05/2012 12:32

Oh god so sorry how strange and sad some parents are.

This is so awful, my own df is very controlling but in a more benign way, always needs to be In the loop and offering advice( unasked) and judgy but overall loving.

You seem to have turned out fine and it's their loss, can't explain their behaviour so I guess you just have to concentrate in you and your little family and get on. Do u have nice in laws?? Not nice though xx

porcamiseria · 18/05/2012 12:34

the get counselling. I think what they have done is very hurtful, and you are at a vulnerable stage at the start of your mothering "journey"

I 100% advise investing in some help so you can get perspective and not let it fuck you up

I dont always advocate it, but this is important xx

BuntyCollocks · 18/05/2012 12:36

I'm so sorry. Your parents sounds awful. I get upset when strangers ignore my DS saying "HIYA!" to them (because he is 15m, the cutest baby ever, and gorgeous, obviously - WHY WOULD YOU IGNORE THAT?!), so I can only imagine how horrid it would be to have your own parents do that to your son.

I don't think anyone can say anything to make it feel better, or to make it right, but you are absolutely NBU.

They are dicks. I bet your DS is gorgeous (and he'd always get a smile from me and mine!).

slatternlymother · 18/05/2012 12:37

My mil is very damaged from years of abuse (emotional and physical) from fil, who I've never met as they separated a couple of years before I met DH. as a result she is flighty, has had several failed marriages in the last 5/6 years and her contact is infrequent. She also lives at the other end of the country. It isn't her fault she is the way she is; I think she's quite damaged tbh and I wholeheartedly forgive her.

My aunt who we used to stay with has made it increasingly clear that whilst she likes our DS, isn't willing to take on anymore as a GP; she already has 5 and a stressful job. I just feel like no one really wants him, and my heart breaks. I'm past the shouty bit, I just feel sad for DS.

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paddlepie · 18/05/2012 12:45

They sound awful and it's their loss. Your DS will probably not think anything of it, if he's never had a relationship with them he'll never miss it. TBH it would be worse for him to see grandparents who blatantly aren't interested. One day your parents will realise that they have missed out on seeing your gorgeous boy grow up.

TroublesomeEx · 18/05/2012 12:45

slatternlymother

I have recently cut contact with my mother. I'm not going to go into details because it was unpleasant and I posted about it on here under a different name (actually I've posted on her under a few different names about my mum!).

I have spent my teenage son's whole life trying to understand my mum's attitude towards me, him and now my DD.

Now I have accepted that she is no longer a part of my life and told her, I feel only a huge sense of relief. The hurt, betrayal and anger I've felt over the years at her attitude has upset me countless times.

I found trying to understand it and resolve it a lot more difficult to bear than the knowledge that she is out of my life.

I would love to have a grandmother for my children. I would love for them to have the relationship with their grandma that I had with mine. I would love for her to value and cherish them. But she doesn't.

So no, YANBU to wish things were difference, but do not waste time on being angry.

Just love and cherish your son, invest in the people around you who deserve your love and your family.

Toughasoldboots · 18/05/2012 12:49

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PomBearWithAnOFRS · 18/05/2012 12:59

If you see your GPs regularly, surely your DS does too. Grandparents, great-grandparents, what's the difference? He can have the same kind of relationship with them can't he?

TroublesomeEx · 18/05/2012 13:00

Tough aint that the truth! Wink

slatternlymother · 18/05/2012 13:09

Yes pom, they are quite frail now and I suppose I'd rather hoped my parents might want to know Sad

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redexpat · 18/05/2012 14:45

I know it doesn't address the root of the problem, but I htink age concern has an adopt a granny scheme. Might be worth looking into?

slatternlymother · 18/05/2012 17:11

Oh ok I wasn't aware of that, I might give it a try Smile

Most of the time, I'm ok. But you can't turn off 20 odd years of unconditional love like a tap Sad

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GhostOfAWasp · 18/05/2012 17:16

I'm so sorry, it's very hard. I know that you can't change them, and that no contact is often the best thing for your sanity, but there are days when it floors you and I don't know how to deal with those, to be honest. (My "parents" have not clapped eyes on any of us for a year.)

I'm glad you're getting counselling. What is this way of thinking your mother wants you to adopt? Shock

MoreCatsThanKids · 18/05/2012 17:43

I'm so sorry about this but to have no contact with people like this is better than having such a strained relationship IMO

My MIL has never taken to me - she has always been polite to my face (was horrible behind my back initially ) but never made me feel welcome or even had a proper conversation. She has always relied on my DH and would very much prefer if he still lived with her - she sent him details of jobs in her area for many years. She lives around 200 miles away and cannot come to us but we have never in DDs 13 years been invited to her house. DH invited us for a couple of hours when DD was 7, again when she was 9 and for last time when she was 11. I will not be going again, due to her attitude to DD (and also because I found out when my FIL/her ExH died how horrible she had been to him - we found letters). DD can choose whether she goes with DH when he makes his brief visits - so far she has not visited.

It really is better to have no relationship at all than a negative one IMO, and there are ways to have relationships with other generations - make friends with some older neighbours, take DS to tea shops!

It is very sad but it's their loss, really it is. Have some councelling if you think it will help but it's not your fault.

What is the 'way of thinking' that you are supposed to come round to?

heartmoonshadow · 18/05/2012 17:55

Slightly different situation for me but my dad lives with his girlfirend and although she is not unkind to my DC she doesn't encourage him to visit or keep in touch. (mum passed away and would never have let this happen but dad is a sheep and follows) anyway I have joined in local toddler groups and my children now have several 'surrogate' grandparents who are more than happy to fulfil that role, give it a try you would be surprised how generous some people are with their time and affection. BTW DH parents are very ill Grandad can only tolerate 1/2 hour at a time due to illness and Nan has alzheimers and lives in a home so also a no go.

slatternlymother · 18/05/2012 17:57

I was supposed to see that they were right, and not want an apology for the things that were said when I was pg. My Dad took me to a room alone and said he was 'really fucking angry and ashamed' when he found out I was pg but 'we'll just have to get on with it now', then when I started crying he hugged me and made out to everyone we'd had a lovely heart to heart. He'd phone me up and rant to me about random things; like how angry DH would be if I dared choose the wrong pram, or spend too much money Angry he'd literally give me a one way transmission down the phone for at least 40 minutes.

When I tried bringing it up with mum when ds was born, she glossed over it totally and ended up sending me a letter detailing the list of my 'crimes', apparently 'it all began when you got yourself pregnant' and said I was lying about my Dad etc. I cut them off for a while, and then stupidly went back. We didn't talk about all this for a while. But when I did finally confront her before Christmas, she said there was no point in apologising because it was over and done with.

The thing is, in the 2 visits we had last year; the first visit she was nice, wanted to interact with DS etc and even took photos. In the second visit she was totally shut off from us. If I didn't know better I'd have said she was mentally ill Sad

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slatternlymother · 18/05/2012 18:01

And morecats I know you are right. I still get jealous when I see kids who have gp's who seem happy to see them though. I couldn't give a flying fuck about being helped out with babysitting/childcare; I don't need it and that's not what I'm about. I just want ds to be wanted because he is such a giving little fellow.

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ChitChatFlyingby · 18/05/2012 18:08

You've posted about your father before, haven't you? I remember the bit about your father being very upset about you being pregnant (unless someone else has an equally shitty father). I'm so sorry your DC have missed out on both sides!

My DSs' GPs live on the other side of the world, but thanks to Skype and visits from them and us they know they are loved. But they have a Godfather who we have nicknamed GodGrandfather as he is our parent's age, who just adores them and they adore him right back. It's so wonderful to see and be a part of, and I guess that's what you're looking for.

One of the things I've discovered is that there are a lot of older people around who don't have grandchildren, or aren't close enough to theirs to see them often.

If you get involved in the community, especially with your local church, you will more than likely find people who are of a grandparent age who would love to have a cup of tea together with you, spend some time with you etc.

FayeGovan · 18/05/2012 18:23

op, it sounds like you are grieving for the parents you want them to be rather than the parents they actually are

this is totally understandable, you love your little ds and want your parents to feel the same

but frankly they sound like they are quite weird and you and your family would be much better off without them

you and your ds sound lovely, I'd give him a big kiss and cuddle if I seen him Smile

slatternlymother · 18/05/2012 18:41

chitchat Blush you got me! I have posted before!

And yes, I probably am 'grieving' in a way. I suppose I realise now since ds came along, that they can't possibly love me the way I love my ds. There is nothing that could make me stop loving him, or wanting to interact with him. Nothing. Least of all him having children. I hope he has six.

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FayeGovan · 18/05/2012 20:45

he's lucky to have you, you'll be a great mum

slatternlymother · 18/05/2012 20:52

BlushBlushBlush oh thank you, that's very sweet BlushBlushBlush

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FayeGovan · 18/05/2012 21:30
Smile

what ds doesn't know he won't miss

you know what he's missing and would love it for him, but he doesn't miss it

my mum is very old and my dad is dead, in laws both dead too, I'd love love love my wonderful sociable ds's to have a close active relationship with a clutch of sprightly gp's but it'll never happen..but I don't think it makes them too sad, its just how it is to them. Kills me though Sad. So I fully sympathise